Re: Academic Press policy (Stevan Harnad) Marcia Tuttle 08 Mar 2000 22:05 UTC
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:42:07 +0000 From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@COGLIT.ECS.SOTON.AC.UK> Subject: Re: academic press policy On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Ken Weiss (California Digital Library Technologies) wrote: > I agree with Stevan's assessment that once a paper is placed on any > web server accessible by the public and open to search engine robots, > the genie is out of the bottle, the worms are out of the can, the > horse is out of the barn, and there's no getting it back in there. > > My concern with including links to 'personal' servers on an eprint > site is technical. Those links need to be maintained. By allowing an > 'abstract + link' model (absent a robust and widely adopted solution > for creating and resolving persistent identifiers), we greatly > increase the likelihood of broken links on the preprint server. I see > '404 Document Not Found' often enough already... I agree completely with Ken. Archives should contain the full text, not just the link, and the distinction between "personal" server and "other" should be ignored for the nonsense it is. > >(3) And, yes, the Santa Fe protocol and the Open Archives Initiative > ><http://www.openarchives.org/> are definitely relevant, because they > >will make university authors' "personal" archives completely > >interoperable, so their contents will be searchable and retrievable > >exactly as if they were all in one big archive. > > I'm not convinced that we've given enough thought to the implications > of a large number of small author-managed repositories with regard to > the issues of access, availability and persistency of scholarly > publications. It's very cheap and easy to set up a server. It's much > more difficult and costly to keep it running over the long haul, with > good security, reliability, performance, and consistency. The solution (again, given the genie/bottle facts Ken confirms) will of course be for an archive-of-archives that harvests and backs up individual open-archive contents cumulatively. To get and keep the ball rolling towards the optimal and inevitable, though, subversive local archiving NOW is preferable to waiting for any other archiving LATER. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Stevan Harnad harnad@cogsci.soton.ac.uk Professor of Cognitive Science harnad@princeton.edu Department of Electronics and phone: +44 23-80 592-582 Computer Science fax: +44 23-80 592-865 University of Southampton http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/ Highfield, Southampton http://www.princeton.edu/~harnad/ SO17 1BJ UNITED KINGDOM NOTE: A complete archive of this ongoing discussion of providing free access to the refereed journal literature is available at the American Scientist September Forum (98 & 99 & 00): http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/september98-forum.html You may join the list at the site above. Discussion can be posted to: september98-forum@amsci-forum.amsci.org