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Re: Institutional Access to Lancet Online (3 messages) Birdie MacLennan 05 Feb 2002 17:55 UTC

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Date:         Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:17:24 -0800
From:         Julie Esparza <julieesparza@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Institutional Access to Lancet Online

Dear friends:

Actually this was their policy starting in I think it
was February 2001.  They always required registration
of users when it was free.  Of course when I bought
our Institutional license I thought this would
disappear.  I then learned that was not an option.  I
know I normally complain about publishers charging
additional money for the same thing we have already
purchased but in this case I'll pay the $100 extra so
that I can give everyone access.  It is cheaper than
paying for access through Ovid or another aggregator.


Julie Esparza
Electronic Services Librarian
ECRI - a non-profit health research institute
5200 Butler Pike
Plymouth Meeting, PA 19462
610-825-6000 Ext. 5184

Date:         Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:52:51 -0500
From:         Peter Picerno <ppicerno@NOVA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Institutional Access to Lancet Online

Ya know, sometimes it's just easier to say that the publisher's licensing
restrictions force institutional cancellation of online access!

P Picerno
       Peter Picerno <ppicerno@NOVA.EDU>

Date:         Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:51:56 -0600
From:         Alfred Kraemer <akraemer@MCW.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Institutional Access to Lancet Online

As far as I can tell the overwhelming number of users are unlikely to use
a password/login for a journal title. I'm pretty sure that there is ample
negative evidence from those publishers that have tried that approach. I
have asked some 'typical' users here about 'one-journal' passwords and
have heard this answer -or a similar one- most often: "We already have
between 5-10 passwords to remember and would not add a password/login that
only can be used for one journal - even if that journal is a key journal
in the field of interest."

I'm pretty sure that this 'new' attempt by 'The Lancet' is doomed to fail
because few users will set up a password/login and even fewer will us it
over a longer period of time.

Alfred Kraemer
Head, Technical Services
Medical College of Wisconsin Libraries
8701 Watertown Plank Road
Milwaukee, WI 53226

Phone: 414-456-4273

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:09 PM
From: "Martin W. Helgesen" <SHHCC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Institutional Access to Lancet Online

The Biomed librarian at my library  just forwarded this to me from MEDLIB-L

>From: "Kleinmuntz, Dalia" <DKleinmuntz@ENH.ORG>
>Reply-To: "Kleinmuntz, Dalia" <DKleinmuntz@ENH.ORG>
>Subject: Re: Institutional Access to Lancet Online
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:18:31 -0600
>Lancet apparently didn't "give up" on last year's attempt and is trying a
>new gimmick, that will give them a mailing list of users, statistics to
>prove how much money they are loosing, and how much libraries owe them.
>Marketing wonders never cease -
>Dalia at Evanston
>-----Original Message-----
>From:   Margo Coletti
>Sent:   Friday, February 01, 2002 11:59 AM
>Subject:        Institutional Access to Lancet Online
> Here's a new and bizarre twist that our serials librarian
>has come across (her report follows).  This sounds like what Wiley was
>doing a couple of years ago (requiring endusers to register with the
>website even though the institution had a subscription).   But it's
>even more intrusive: Lancet is demanding name, mail address and email
>address.  Then the enduser must assign himself a username and password.
> A large number of complaints to Wiley put an end to the practice of
>requiring enduser registration.  I'm suggesting strongly that this
>practice, if we are indeed understanding it correctly, be protested
>loudly and directly to Lancet.  One question before I call London:
>Has anyone else received the same information as we have?
>                 Margo Coletti
>                 Medical Library Services Director
>                 Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
>                 330 Brookline Avenue
>                 Boston MA 02215
>                 phone (617) 667-4225   fax (617) 667-7197
>                 email:
>                 ****************************************
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Silver,April D. (Clin Info, PaperChase, Z Clin Inf)
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:44 AM
> Our 2002 subscription for Lancet is for print with online
>access for multiple users.  I called customer service in NY
>(1-800-462-6198) for help activating our multiple user access.
>Reading from instructions from the London Office, Bernice In
>Customer Service told me that institutions cannot post generic
>usernames and passwords on their web sites even with multiple
>use subscriptions.  Each user must register, "claim access,." and
>create a different username and password.  To register, each user
>must register with the subscription number and authentication code
>(registrants are instructed to ask their librarians for the numbers
> -- librarians get the numbers from Lancet by letter or telephone
>call), provide name, address, email address, position and medical
>specialty, and then create his or her own username and password.
>To avoid the step of having each patron supply the subscription
>number and authentication code, institutions can register IP
>address by emailing them to  But even with
>IP registration each user must still register and create his or her
>own username and password.
> Bernice suggested that the library could register 4 or 5 times and
>create 4 or 5 usernames and passwords that could be posted on its
>website for patrons to use.  But if patrons happened to try to use the
>same username and password at the same time they would get a message that
>the username and password were in use and not be able to log in.  The
>person who devised this scenario is Katy Budgen in London.  Her telephone
>number is 011442076114100.  Bernice could not find an email address
for Katy.
>(One more question: Does anyone have an email address for
>"Katy"?  mhc)

Martin W. Helgesen
Cohen Library          Voice: 212 650-5871 FAX: 212 650-7604
City College of New York, Convent Avenue and 138th Street
New York, New York 10031

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