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Re: Claiming statistics? (Peter Picerno) SERIALST Moderator 24 Jun 2002 19:17 UTC

Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:32:52 -0400
From: "Peter Picerno" <>
Subject: RE: Claiming statistics? (Eve Davis)

ANY title which causes chronic problems ought to be cancelled. It is not
good fiduciary procedure to use money to support any entity which does
not fulfill its end of a contract (isn't a subscription a contract, even
though the subscribers are held to it much more rigorously than the
issuer of the subscription??). If, after efforts made in good faith, a
subscription remains problematic, the best solution for the library is to
stop the subscription and if patrons question the library's decision,
publisher cooperation and financial responsibility can (and ought to) be
cited as the reasons for cancellation.

Peter V. Picerno

-----Original Message-----
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:26:58 -0500
From: Eve Davis <>
Subject: RE: Claiming statistics? (Carol Feustel)


I could not resist writing back to you tell you--you go girl!!  You can
imagine how many times I would have liked to tell the publishers just what
you did and also some of our customers who think it is the vendor's fault
when the publisher pulls these kinds of tricks.


-----Original Message-----
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:16:44 -0400
From: "Feustel, Carol" <FEUSTECS@UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
Subject: RE: Claiming statistics?

LIST.  We don't have the staff, time or money to mess around with them.

If you think we claim for the fun of it you are sorely mistaken.  Come to
the library and listen to the faculty yell when their favorite item isn't
here!  They don't understand the nonsense many of you publishers put us

Here's a true story:  all last year I did not receive a monthly journal.
I claimed it repeatedly with no response at all from the publisher.  As
we do not bind this particular journal, I instructed our vendor to
request a refund for 2001.  NOW, in June 2002, the publisher tells the
vendor there was a "balance due" on our account and that is why we didn't
get our issues last year.  The publisher couldn't tell us that last
year??  Occurrences such as this reinforce to librarians the suspicion
that too many claims are dumped in the trash.

We've just discussed on VetLIB that far too many of us haven't received
the Jan 2002 issue of Veterinary Pathology, yet have not received a
response from the publisher (I've claimed it twice).  Hopefully the
American College of Veterinary Pathologists won't decide we're all lying
and just want our own personal copy for some bazaar reason.

I try to run claims on a regular basis, but it doesn't seem to matter.
I'll be told an issue isn't published when the issues after it are
already received.  I've been told issues were combined when they weren't
(I had to fax a copy of the issue to the vendor so they could prove it to
the publisher!).  You say it's far too late to claim an issue, yet I've
been placing claims for this issue months!

Tell us THE TRUTH with the first claim.  Sit up and take notice if
there's a second claim.  A problem needs immediate attention!

Carol Feustel

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