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Re: Price increases for 2005 Sally Morris (ALPSP) 06 Dec 2004 16:10 UTC

> Apologies for late response
>
> While I am certainly not trying to justify unreasonable price increases, I
> would just like to point out that many publishers are trying to develop
> their pricing models for electronic licences, away from a print-based
> model and towards something that is both more realistic and fairer;  this
> is in response to much, justifiable, criticism from librarians of the
> print-based model.   The trouble with any fairer model is that it hits
> heavy users harder than before...
>
> Sally
> Sally Morris, Chief Executive
> Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Koveleskie, Judith" <kovelesk@SETONHILL.EDU>
> To: <SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 3:46 PM
> Subject: [SERIALST] Price increases for 2005
>
>
>>I second the motion.  When we renew each year we have no idea what the new
>>prices will be. We usually estimate an overall increase of around 10% that
>>comes pretty close.  However, I do have some titles that individually are
>>ridiculous.  Unfortunately, they are usually the ones that the faculty
>>would most want us to keep and the publishers know this so I'm not sure
>>how much we can "pressure" them.
>>
>> I am also wondering if more publishers are going to establish different
>> rates for individuals and institutions.  My biggest increases this year
>> resulted from this change to two tier pricing.  Of course, lots of
>> journals have been doing this for awhile so when you compare like
>> journals the new price is comparable - it just seemed like a big jump in
>> one year.
>>
>> Judith A. Koveleskie
>> Periodicals Librarian
>> Seton Hill University
>> Reeves Memorial Library
>> Greensburg, PA 15601
>> 724-838-7828
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
>> [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU]On Behalf Of Christopher Allen Waldrop
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 10:22 AM
>> To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Price increases for 2005 (Sandy Srivastava)
>>
>>
>> Sandy,
>>
>> I'm sorry to come to this discussion late, but I wanted to add
>> something else to the discussion of price increases.
>>
>> We use several different vendors for most of our subscriptions.
>> Some time ago we asked our vendors whether we could be notified and
>> be given the option of cancelling our subscriptions if the price
>> increased more than 20%. One of our vendors agreed to this; another
>> said they would be unable to do this. In the case of
>> "non-cancellable" titles this means we sometimes have to accept
>> surprise price increases, at least for a year. It also means,
>> though, that we're going to be less likely to place new orders for
>> non-cancellable titles with the vendor that can't notify us of
>> price increases before we have a chance to cancel.
>>
>> What I'm getting at is that vendors have a lot more clout with
>> publishers than individual libraries. Although neither the vendor
>> nor the publisher wants to keep prices low, the reason we pay
>> service charges is so vendors will act as representatives on our
>> behalf to the publishers, not the other way around. It would make a
>> big difference if vendors would either pressure publishers to
>> release subscription rates earlier in the year or give libraries an
>> "escape clause" to get out of subscriptions that go up too much.
>>
>> As an added note, there are a lot of different reasons why
>> subscriptions increase in price, but the biggest increases I've
>> seen are the result of journals moving from one publisher to
>> another. When a journal goes from a university press to, say,
>> Blackwell Publishing, it's almost certain the price will at least
>> double.
>>
>> --On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:39 PM -0500 Bob Persing
>> <persing@POBOX.UPENN.EDU> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Serialsters:
>>>
>>> I just need to ask -- has anybody else noticed that some subscription
>>> prices have skyrocketed to over 100% or higher on their invoices?   I
>>> just wanted to confirm that everyone else has seen these as well
>>> i.e.
>>> Harvard Law Review, Marriage and Family Review, Personnel
>>> Psychology and I have a growing list I could put up here.
>>>
>>> I am used to price increases of 7-10 % but this is just crazy --?
>>> Is anybody else experiencing higher than usual increases on
>>> subscriptions?
>>> Are the publishers having a free for all now?
>>>
>>> Sandy Srivastava
>>>
>>> Sandhya D. Srivastava
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Serials Librarian
>>> Hofstra University
>>> Axinn Library
>>> 123 Hofstra University
>>> Hempstead, New York 11550
>>> Telephone: (516) 463 - 5959
>>> Fax: (516) 463 - 6438
>>> Email: librsds@hofstra.edu <mailto:librsds@hofstra.edu>
>>
>>
>>
>> Christopher Allen Waldrop
>> Serials Coordinator
>> Order Services Department
>> Vanderbilt University Library
>> Ph: 615-343-3831
>> Fax: 615-343-8834