Mr. Lucas states:
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Yes, if T & F has
changed the groupings of the print issues then this can create a
check-in problem, however this can be overcome by using our expertise
and knowledge of the situation. We can correct the prediction in our
systems, alert our staff,  and watch the site for 2007. That is one of
our jobs.
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Am I in the minority who does not consider it part of her job to search
publishers websites to see if they are changing the frequency from that
which is printed in the issue I have in hand?
And if I am, where are the rest of you finding the time?

Or am I totally not understanding something?

Thanks,

Jeanette Skwor

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Here is just my $ .02 worth. Actually more than that.

When I first found out about these titles, as I recall there was an
announcement on the T & F site, and I thought some mention of it on
SERIALIST.    I checked and found 2 or 3 titles affecting us, I do not
recall the titles now,  however the 'proposed' print schedules for those
titles seemed uniform (nos. 1-4, nos. 5-8) but may have changed.

I believe T & F indicated that the electronic issues would come out as
they had previously no. 1, no. 2, no. 3 etc. (possibly on the same time
frame).

If that is the case, then citations sent to the indexes and abstracts
(Medline, et al.) would reflect that electronic issue and not the print
which comes out later.

This would be similiar to e-only journals such as the BioMed Central
titles where issues are closed off and the next issue opened.

The printed 'archive' issues would be combined.   Yes, if T & F has
changed the groupings of the print issues then this can create a
check-in problem, however this can be overcome by using our expertise
and knowledge of the situation. We can correct the prediction in our
systems, alert our staff,  and watch the site for 2007. That is one of
our jobs.

The number of titles doing this was small, and I assume, a test to see
if this model had possibilities.  Obviously there would have to be some
tweaking and if T & F feels this can be debugged to save them some costs
as Barbara believes (I also) then this would be expanded to include more
of their journals.

Please forgive 'fuzziness' in my thoughts, as I am engrossed with Annual
report.

John Lucas

Serials Librarian
University of Mississippi Medical Center 2500 North State St Jackson, MS
39216-4505

(PH) (601) 984-1277
(FAX)  ( 601) 984-1262
JLUCAS@ROWLAND.UMSMED.EDU

>>> Dietsch.Barbara@EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV 7/13/2006 12:56 PM >>>
Actually Bill, I don't think it is the end of the matter.  You've been
discussing philosophies and opinions from a publisher's point of view.

I requested practical comments on how library workers were handling the
print/online enumeration discrepancies in their day-to-day work.  We
have to come up with a solution on how to deal with this problem, and it
is a problem for serials technical staff.

I don't think this situation is about "policy" per say, but  how do
librarians and library patrons deal with decisions made by publishers
which often are not logical or straightforward for the user.

But..........another spin on philosophies..........basically, you are
selling a product, and if the customer is unhappy with changes or
inconsistencies with the product, it is of benefit to both the producer
and consumer to give feedback on how it affects them and why.  Both
Haworth and Taylor & Francis are for-profit publishers.  You are selling
a product to make money.  Librarians and library users are one segment
of your customer base.

Serialists send your suggestions and comments on practical solutions to
this unavoidable and irritating irregularity.

Thanks!

barb

barb dietsch | serials coordinator
epa library | unc contract staff
109 tw alexander drive | mail code c267-01 research triangle park, nc
27711
phone: 919.541.0726
fax: 919.541.1405
dietsch.barbara@epa.gov

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Steve:

I respectfully disagree, and totally.   Your own history in this
area is completely documented, and I think librarians can decide on
their own what policy they choose.

Let us consider this an end to the matter.

Thank you for your constructive help.

Bill Cohen, Publisher
The Haworth Press, Inc.
www.HaworthPress.com