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Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes (messages 1-8) Birdie MacLennan 14 Nov 1996 22:20 UTC

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Date:         Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:34:53 -0500
From:         Ann Lucas - Thomas Cooley Law School <lucasann@MLC.LIB.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes
Comments: To: Annalisa Van Avery <AV691@CNSVAX.ALBANY.EDU>

Annalisa:  We have been putting page numbers on the spines our bound
volumes for many years, for exactly the reasons your professor outlined.
Citation tracking is pretty important to academic law library folks, so
this seems like a logical way for us to help.

Ann Lucas
Serials Librarian
Thomas M. Cooley Law Library
P.O. Box 13038
Lansing, MI  48901                       "They say "Time flies," but
                                       how can you? They go by at
                                       such irregular intervals!"
Ph: 517-371-5140, ext.608
Fax: 517-334-5715
email: lucasann@mlc.lib.mi.us
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On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Annalisa Van Avery wrote:

>         We have received an interesting request from a biology professor.
> He says that when a periodical which is consecutively paged through the
> whole volume or year, and voluminous enough to need binding in several
> parts, we should be putting page numbers on the spines.  He says, "The
> standard way of expressing references is by page number, not by the no.
> of the issue within a volume.  Not having the pages available on the
> outside of the binding is very disruptive -- I find myself pulling out
> several bound volumes from the shelf when I need only one.  It is very
> time consuming for the researcher."
>
>         We have not been printing page numbers on the spines; we usually
> use the variants as they appear on the issues -- issue numbers, months,
> etc.  Some reference index/abstracts will have abst. numbers, but most
> commonly it will be "no.1-6" and "no.7-12," or "Jan.-Mar.," "Apr.-June,"
> etc.  I asked our bindery if many libraries used page numbers on the
> spine, and they said a few do, but they are mostly medical libraries,
> not the college and university libraries.
>
>         I would be interested in hearing from other libraries -- have
> your patrons been asking for page numbers?  Do you use them for multi-
> part volumes?  Is this a service that would make our patrons really
> happy?  I guess what I am really asking is, is this just one cranky
> customer, or a genuine good idea?  It would not raise the bind price,
> but of course it would create some more clerical work for the bind prep
> people.
>                 Annalisa Van Avery
>                 Periodicals Cataloger and Head, Phys. Proc. & Bindery
>                 SUNY Albany        av691@cnsvax.albany.edu

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Date:         Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:16:35 EST
From:         Brad Coon <coon@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes

We put them on a few, but its a case by case thing.  No one has ever
asked about for them on other titles and we do the ones we do do that
way because we always have, good reason eh?
Practically speaking, it would seem to greatly increase the potential
for errors and we have enough of those thank you,
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Brad Coon                             If you are not living on
COON@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU            the edge, you are taking
http://cvax.ipfw.indiana.edu/~coon/   up too much space.

"Civilize the mind and make savage the body."
        Chinese proverb
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Date:         Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:55:46 EST
From:         MS_RESPASS <mrespass@GEORGIAN.EDU>
Subject:      Page numbers on spine of bound volumes
Comments: To: serialst@uvmvm.uvm.edu
To:           Multiple recipients of list SEREDIT <SEREDIT@UVMVM.UVM.EDU>

        I would be interested in hearing from other libraries -- have
your patrons been asking for page numbers?  Do you use them for multi-
part volumes? yes Is this a service that would make our patrons really
happy? yes I guess what I am really asking is, is this just one cranky
customer, or a genuine good idea? good idea It would not raise the
          bind price, but of course it would create some more clerical
          work for the bind prep people.Once it is set up, it takes
          little additional time.  We do this generally for selected
          science titles that are bound multi-volume with continuous
          paging--exactly what your professor was asking.  Students
          find it much easier to find articles--which gives relief to
          the reference desk.

          Marie Respass
          Georgian Court College
          Lakewood, NJ
          mrespass@georgian.edu

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Date:         Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:47:22 EST
From:         Karen Douglas <kdouglas@BURNS.NLC.GWU.EDU>
Organization: Jacob Burns Law Library
Subject:      Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes

We probably bind on a much smaller scale than you do (about 1200
titles), but we do use page numbers on the spine when we split a
volume. The citations, especially in law reviews do contain page
numbers and volumes, rather than issue numbers. We put page numbers as follows:
the first part would be PP.
1-485; the second  or last part would be PP. 486-END, so the patron knows
that that is the last part of the volume. This practice was already
in place when we took over the bindery function from Circulation, but
it makes sense.  Finding page numbers is easy because for virtually
all of our law reviews and probably other scholarly journals, the
range of pages is listed on the spine of the issue.

Hope this helps.

Karen B. Douglas
Acquisitions/Serials Librarian
Jacob Burns Law Library
George Washington University
Washington, DC
202-994-8550
202-994-2874 -fax
KDouglas@Burns.nlc.gwu.edu

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Date:         Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:54:55 -0500
From:         Betty Tobias <tobias@URVAX.URICH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes

At the Science Library, University of Richmond, we have been putting page
numbers on volumes that are bound in parts since I began work here in the
early 1980's. Most science citations do include page numbers, and not the
months so it is easier for patrons to find the needed information.
We use months on volumes that individually page each issue.

*********************************
Betty B. Tobias
Library Associate
Science Library
University of Richmond, VA 23173
(804)289-8787
(804)289-8482 (FAX)
e-mail btobias@richmond.edu

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Date:         Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:53:18 -0500
From:         Kira Haimovsky <UL_HAIMOVSKY@RHODA.FORDHAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes

Annalisa,

Here at Fordham University Library in New York we always put page numbers
on the spines of multi-part volumes, most of them are science journals.
It does really help and we are glad to provide this service for our patrons.
It requires some additional time from the bindery clerk, but not much.
So I would encourage you to follow this practice.

Kira Haimovsky
Head of Serials
Fordham University Library

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Date:         Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:56:48 -0400
From:         "Marie Doyle, Binding,
              Bata Library Trent University" <MDOYLE@TRENTU.CA>
Subject:      Page numbers on spine of bound volumes

At Trent University we follow the rules that your bindery prep people and
bindery have set up.  There might be 5 to 6 titles that are bound with page
numbering on the spine...usually because of previous binding pattern long
established.

We have, on occasion, dropped the page numbering to go to issue numbering (as
is according to our standard procedure) and have had no feed-back from the
user.

The definitive answer would be to check the major index for that title and use
what they use to index the title on the spine.  I think the majority of titles
are well identified with vol. number, issue no. and year on the spine.

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Date:         Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:09:45 -0500
From:         "Geraldine H. Wescott" <wescott@LYCO.LYCOMING.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Page numbers on spine of bound volumes

Annalisa:

We're a small (1500 students) liberal arts college.

I noticed a number of years ago that students were looking for articles
more by the pages than by the months or numbers of the issues so on those
journals that are consecutively paged, I changed to putting the page
numbers  on the spines to help them out.

They need all the help they can get!

Gerre

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