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Re: Cataloging question (3 messages) ERCELAA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu 19 Mar 1999 18:05 UTC

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:50:04 -0800
From: Steve Shadle <shadle@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Cataloging question (Julia Franklin)

On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 ERCELAA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu wrote:

> Is this a significant enough change to warrant a title change and the need
> for a new record?

The change would have to occur in 245$anp (fields which constitute title
proper) for it to be considered a title change.  A "Subtitle varies." note
might be useful.  --Steve

    Steve Shadle   *******
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:56:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Mary Grenci <>
Subject: Re: Cataloging question (Julia Franklin)

> Is a significant change in a sub-title a title change?

No, it's not. AACR2 21.2A1 specifies that what we're talking about with
title changes is the "title proper". Only create a new record when the
title proper changes. The Conser Cataloging Manual, at 6.1.1, defines the
title proper as "The chief name of an item, including any alternative
title but **excluding parallel titles and other title information.**"
[emphasis is mine]. This means the title proper may include subfields a,
n, and p, but not subfield b.

You may either input a 246 for title with the later subtitle (I'd probably
use subfield i with a textual note, but you could use 246 13 with a
subfield f showing the start date-   ); or, simply put in a "500 Subtitle
varies" note. The 246 seems better in this case because it is a
substantial change.

> This might seem and may be a stupid question, but I was raised that the
> only stupid question is the question you never asked.

You were taught correctly! There are no stupid questions.


Mary Grenci
Serials Catalog Librarian
Knight Library
1299 University of Oregon
Eugene, OR 97403-1299


Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:12:26 -0500
From: Nancy Burns <nburns@PHOENIX.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Cataloging question (Julia Franklin)

   Changes--however great--in serial subtitles do not constitute title
changes.  You can mention the variation in a 500 note.
   The MARC 245 subfields a (Title) n (Part designation) and p (Part
title) make up the title proper.  Changes to b (Remainder of title) and c
(Statement of responsibility) can be covered by notes.  (So it's important
to distinguish between subtitles and part titles, as the latter ARE part
of the title proper, and changes to them may be considered title changes.)
                                            Nancy Burns
                                            Princeton University Library
                                            (speaking for myself alone)