It's a Gauss Weapon.

The difference between TL-10 and TL-12 is TL-12 is about 0.625 shorter for the same acceleration (based on the table provided).

And our normal CPR pistol (Say an M-9) has a 4.9" barrel (12.5 cm) to get 381 m/s at TL-8 (494 Joules). Weights about 7.5 grams.

TNE suggests the minimum m/s for a Gauss weapon is 1500 m/s and some head up to 5000m/s and TL-10 is the least.

If we assumed you could build a Gauss weapon at 400 m/s at TL-8, I'd extrapolate the table value to about 2.3.

So 400 m/s at TL-8:
Lb(cm) = (400/100) * (2.3) = 9.2 cm (= 3.6").
For a 4mm Gauss projectile, the projectile has has a diameter of 20mm.
Wt = 0.02 * pi * radius^3 (radius in mm)
    = 0.02 * 3.1415 * 8
    = 0.5 grams
Muzzle Energy in KiloJoules = 0.5 * (Wt * Vel^2) / 1000
Muzzle Energy = 0.5 * (0.5 * 400^2) / 1000 = 400/1000 = 0.4 KJ = 400 Joules

So the lighter round seems to liberate about 80% of the damage doing of the 9mm with a 3.6" barrel. Maybe with a 5" barrel, it could have about the same results.

I didn't write the tables. I know the one original one I quoted was broken (because the way they wrote the barrel length, it got longer as you got higher tech which is the opposite of what they say should happen) but otherwise, I have no idea where they pulled most of the equations from.

I suppose if I still had my copy of Guns! Guns! Guns!, I could design a Gauss PDS or a Gauss Railgun for a ship if I had the MT conversion notes...

Anyway, they use one set of equations for Gauss Small Arms, available TL-10, sizes up to 2 cm, then a different set starting maybe as low as TL-8 for Mass Drivers down to 2 cm. I imagine a 2 cm design in each system will not line up.... and no length is involved for a Gauss Cannon - but there is some length calculations about the Bay you might put it in and the tunnel it is installed in....

TomB




On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:17 PM Jeffrey Schwartz <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Muzzle velocity on a 9x19mm is about 400m/s.
Makes 6.4cm barrel.... about 2.5 inches at TL-10

That's shorter than a gunpowder pistol barrel and a little quicker projectile.
Doesn't seem to match real life.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:06 PM <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 1.Barrel Length: The length of the barrel is a function of tech level and muzzle velocity. Higher velocities require longer barrels to provide the necessary acceleration, while advances in technology allow higher acceleration in shorter distances (thus allowing shorter barrels). Barrel length is determined using the following formula:
> Lb = V+100TLm
> Lb: Length of barrel in centimeters.
> V: Muzzle velocity in meters per second. (Step 1)
> TLm: Tech level multiplier, as shown in the next column:
> TL        TLm
> 10        1.6
> 11        1.3
> 12        1.0
> 13        0.8
> 14        0.6
> 16+       0.4
>
> So, notice they say that higher velocities require longer barrels (for a given TL) and advancing TL allow higher acceleration in shorter velocities.
>
> So if I wanted to have 1600 m/s as my muzzle velocity, at TL 10. So my barrel length according to this calculation is:
>
> Lb(cm) = 1600 / (100 * 1.6) = 1600/160 = 10 cm
>
> Let's try to up the velocity to 3200 m/s.
> Lb(cm) = 20 cm
>
> So let's look at TL 12 then which should need shorter barrel lengths
>
> 1600 m/s.
> Lb(cm) = 1600 / (100 * 1.0) = 1600 / 100 = 16 cm
> 3100 m/s
> Lb(cm) = 3200 / (100 * 1.0) = 32 cm.
>
> Hmmmm.... DOES NOT LOOK RIGHT.
> No errata in as of CONSOLIDATED TNEERRATA, v0.02(09/19/09) for TNE.
>
> a) Is there a newer TNE errata?
>
> b) if not, I suggest one of two changes to the equation on page 102
> Lb(cm) = (V / 100) * TLm
> So, TL-10, 1600 m/s:
> Lb(cm) = (1600/100) * 1.6 = 16 * 1.6 = 25.6 cm  (10")
> TL-10, 3200 m/s
> Lb(cm) = (3200/100) * 1.6 = 51.2 cm (18")
> At TL-12, 1600 m/s:
> Lb(cm) = (1600/100) * 1.0 = 16 cm (6")
> At TL-12, 3200 m/s:
> Lb(cm) = (3200/100) * 1.0 = 32 cm (11")
> TL-14, 1200 m/s:
> Lb(cm) = (1600/100) * 0.6 = 9.6 cm (4") - this one is a pistol when it used to be a carbine at TL-10
> TL-14, 3200
> Lb(cm)= (3200/100 * 0.6 = 19.2 cm (8") this is a carbine when it used to be an AR.
> At TL-14, 5000 m/s:
> Lb(cm) = (5000/100) * 0.6 = 30 cm (12")
>
> Those all seem more manageable values and they get shorter with higher tech level for the same energy.
>
> Thoughts?
>
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