My brothers in law are engineers. They are good ones; one mechanical one composites. One does worldwide roll outs of cars and vans, the other aero and space.

 

Now they can turn their hands to almost anything.

Build a wood panelled bathroom from scratch? Not a problem.

Create millimetre perfect covering for a front room sofa having never sewn or used a sewing machine before? Not a problem.

Run the IT systems for a design centre of excellence? Not a problem.

Design manufacture and work out how to deploy a science instrument to Mars? No worries.

 

They basically look at something says things like “Yup I can do that” and do it or “Yup I could do that, but I don’t have the time” and get someone in, and very rarely “No, don’t want to even try” and pick up the phone to a specialist.

 

They know how things work, or should work, or can work, and what they need to make them work, and the properties of the stuff in the thing that they want to work etc.

 

So I reckon that someone with Engineering-4 would cover lots of other things like Mechanical, Electrical, Gravatics, Carpentry etc. but would also know where they would need to say “No, don’t want to even try”.

 

Best regards,

 

Ewan

 

From: xxxxxx@simplelists.com <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
Sent: 15 October 2020 09:33
To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
Subject: Re: [TML] Query: Do Traveller Power Plant or Jump Drives Use Gravity Control Internally?

 

That was Andy Slack - I actually remember reading those columns of his when they were first published! ;^D

Personally, I wouldn't cascade it like that, just say that, depending on circumstance, the Engineer-4 might well be able to handle a task without suffering for being unskilled. I actually disagreed, then and now with the premise as expressed, since Engineer in CT to me doesn't cover the basic infrastructure of a ship, that's more Mechanic or Electronic. Engineer covers the big-ticket items. The guy with Engineer-4 is a specialist who probably doesn't spend much time outside his engine room...

That's CT of course, other flavours of Traveller draw the lines differently.

Cheers,
Jim

On 15/10/2020 07:21, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:

 

I was just wondering about whether, in the fusion plants we know to be the main power plants or the jump drives, gravity control was a technology involved in those systems?

 

Obviously, for thruster plates, aka main drive, that's a 100% certainty.

But are there places in the fusion process where gravity control could be used to make the process safer, higher output, better returns on fuel conversion, etc?

 

And for the jump drive, has anything ever been said to suggest or deny the use of a gravitic control within the jump drives?

 

This question came up in a round about way: Someone in an old white dwarf was talking about implied skills (Your Engineer-4 lacking mechanical can't change a car tire, but can slap together a smashed up ship with riggers tape...) and I could probably imagine where Engineer could count as at least a level of Electronics or Mechanical. I then naturally wondered about gravitics... as because Engineer skill can fix main drives, and they include gravitics, maybe there's a minimum gravitics level assumed. (In MT, that would be 'acts as').

 

Thoughts? I know it piles a fair bit onto the Engineer skill, but at the same time, there's already a lot on that skill by virtue of it not being cascaded into Main Drive Engineer, Jump Drive Engineer, Power Plant Engineer, and Ship Systems Engineer (the rest).

 

Would it be fairly reasonable to assume if you have a high level of Engineer, you must at least have the equivalent of Electronics, Mechanical and/or Gravitics?

 

TomB


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