Even back in the 80s my group thought the whole nobility thing silly since historically aristocracy did not persist in all empires forever.
Instead we rolled for form of government in the sector, and if it came up 'liberal'-like, we rolled for system governments also.
Later I used a similar system to produce OOBs for military campaigns based on forms of government/social orders. Tyrannies got low grade and less willing conscripts, democracies, got smaller professional forces, aristocracies got a mix of this with a few spite guard units, etc. Officers could hire on as mercenaries across systems, within reason. I.e. not a lot of officers from British Army guards would hire on to serve in North Korea.
Economics went along with governance and social order. Some economic systems are simply incompatible with some forms of governance and societies.
The interesting part was fixing to see who allied with whom, and how well they 'bonded'. And, at random periods in system/sector histories there would be change in either governance, social order or economy, thus upsetting the military 'apple cart'. One time I even had game replicate history with Communism displacing monarchy. An entire corps decided to pack and go home in the middle of a campaign. Its allies, two democracies, an oligarchy, and a tribal confederation, then concluded a hasty peace, and turned on the former ally.
GregC
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Jim Vassilakos <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Historically, and correct me if I'm wrong, nobles such as barons, counts, dukes, and such were powers in and of themselves, local strongmen who exercised direct authority over their populations.
The concept that Noble titles were imposed by the Imperium as a taxing authority is kind of muddied by the carrot and stick method of the growth of the Imperium (disregarding, for the moment, the genocidal clusterf*ck that the Zhunastu School of Contact would have produced): local powers were given Imperial titles in return for their support.
Those local barons, counts and dukes WERE the local powers co-opted into the larger kingdom by promises of power and military support.
if the imperium co-opted the local governing structure, the concept of ‘non-interference’ is kind of moot.
Yes, the Marquis Enerii of Anacreon VII is merely the Imperial tax collector, in theory divorced from the local power structure, but when the Marquis is ALSO The Chairman Of the Praesidium and Protector of Gungestan, Augustus 25th, absolute ruler of the planet, local rule and Imperial rule are the same.
Over the centuries, also, since local nobles are tasked with keeping the trade flowing, and credits moving upward, they will find it well-nigh impossible to do so without a significant level of local control, so that by the time of the classic OTU, the Imperium de facto, if not de jure, DOES in fact run everything. If the ‘local’ noble doesn’t actually run things, they’re extremely influential.
This all is also utterly disregarding the true backbone of the feudal system: the serfs, who were legally bound to the land. Nothing like this exists in the OTU...
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