Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Freelance Traveller
(28 Nov 2014 17:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Phil Pugliese
(28 Nov 2014 19:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Richard Aiken
(29 Nov 2014 01:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Mikko Parviainen
(02 Dec 2014 08:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Phil Pugliese
(02 Dec 2014 17:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming Freelance Traveller (03 Dec 2014 00:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Timothy Collinson
(04 Dec 2014 03:13 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Grimmund
(10 Dec 2014 14:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Jeffrey Schwartz
(11 Dec 2014 13:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Richard Aiken
(11 Dec 2014 18:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Grimmund
(11 Dec 2014 20:13 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Richard Aiken
(11 Dec 2014 22:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Grimmund
(11 Dec 2014 22:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Addendum to cultural note: Naming
Richard Aiken
(12 Dec 2014 07:20 UTC)
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:53:44 +0200, Mikko Parviainen <xxxxxx@kapsi.fi> wrote: >Most systems have potentials for collisions... I don't know of any >people with all the same names (in Finland you can have 1-3 first names, >I'm Mikko Ville Iisakki Parviainen), but as we usually use only one first >name and the surname, collisions are easily possible. >When I worked at the Helsinki University of Technology, there was one >other Mikko Parviainen working there. Once I got the flight tickets to a >conference in internal mail, with the note "are you the correct one?" on >them. I know of at least a third Mikko Parviainen in the genreal area, >and a Google search turns up more of us. And there are at least five people with G+ profiles that share my name, and only two of those profiles are mine. Ditto LinkedIn, and only one of those _may_ be mine (I may have joined a long time ago, and just never did anything with it afterward). >Also, there are only a bit over five million people in Finland. I would >imagine name collisions are more common in larger cultural areas and >if you only have one first name. Not necessarily - there are other factors that will have a major influence: for example, in a number of European countries - I believe that _all_ of the Scandinavian countries other than Finland (I don't know about Finland) have restrictions on what names may be given a child; in fact, there was just recently a news article about an Icelandic girl who is now 18, who _just_ got the right to use the name her mother wanted to give her ("Bailey", though I believe the spelling was conformant to Icelandic orthography). When there's a limited name-set, the chance of collision is increased, in inverse proportion to the size of the name-set. Other countries outside Scandinavia have similar restrictions. Immigrant cultures, like most of the Americas, tend not to restrict names, and in the United States, there isn't even a bar against "nonsensical" or "offensive" names - which is how the children of a certain performer ended up with "Dweezil" and "Moon Unit" - or names that are guaranteed to turn the child into a target of ridicule as he enters school, which is how one of the project managers at my job ended up with "Kent Clarke". Certainly, when you have "middle names", "Confirmation names", "second names", and so on, you reduce the chances of "hard" collisions - but when you're looking at a culture that tends not to use fixed family names, but only patronymics (like Iceland, or medieval Judaism), _and_ a limited set of names, whether by tradition or by law, you dramatically increase the opportunity for collision. My note was simply to indicate one way that such a situation has been handled in the real world, so that the idea was available for Traveller "culture-heads" to quickly grab if they "needed" it for a culture being built. -- Jeff Zeitlin, Editor Freelance Traveller The Electronic Fan-Supported Traveller® Fanzine and Resource xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com http://www.freelancetraveller.com http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/ ®Traveller is a registered trademark of Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of the trademark in this notice and in the referenced materials is not intended to infringe or devalue the trademark. Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following enterprises for hosting services: CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net) The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)