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International Journal of Comparative Sociology (7 messages) Marcia Tuttle 30 Oct 2003 19:28 UTC

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:46:07 -0500
From: Ken Siegert <>
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology

If I remember correctly, "International Journal of Comparative
Sociology" (and a few other titles) had been published by Brill.
These titles are now being published by deSitter, and are continuing.
Brill has replaced "International Journal of Comparative Sociology"
with "Comparative Sociology", etc.  The titles are independent of
each other.


>I'm hoping someone out there can help me with this dilemma. We subscribe to
>the journal "International Journal of Comparative Sociology" (issn:0020-7152
>OCLC#1654008). Recently we got Vol. 2:3 (2003) of a title called "Comparative
>Sociology" (issn:1569-1322 OCLC#48789055). I got to wondering if they were
>related when we were claiming an issue of the first title, and they are, but
>here is where it gets interesting. IJCS is not closed out as yet in OCLC, but
>there is a 785 field for "Comparative Sociology". The bib record for
>"Comparative Sociology" says it began with Vol. 1, no. 1 (2002)- and has a 780
>field for "IJCS". The kicker is that we have 4 issues for Vol. 43 (2002)of
>IJCS on our shelves, when it had supposedly changed title. Were the two
>journals being published simultaneously with different titles and volumes? Is
>the content the same? I don't know how else to explain this. Does anyone else
>out there have this same problem, or does anyone have issues of Vol. 1 (2002)
>for "Comparative Sociology"? Further, can anyone explain how this can be, or
>what I should do about it? I hope I have explained this allright, and thank
>you in advance for your consideration and help.
>Tom Evans
>Periodicals Librarian
>Canisius College Library
>Phone 716-888-2932
>Fax  716-888-2887

Ken Siegert
Acquisitions Assistant
Shadek-Fackenthal Library
Franklin & Marshall College
P.O. Box 3003
Lancaster, PA  17604-3003

Phone - (717) 291-4219
Fax -       (717) 291-4160

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:48:13 -0600
From: Mary Lou Epp <>
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology

Ebsco told us that this is one where the editor (who owned the rights to
the title) moved from Brill
to DeSitter publications.  Brill decided to continuing publishing a title
with the  name Comparative
Sociology.  So from Brill's perspective it is a title change, but in
reality they are two separate titles
with a publisher change.

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:48:44 -0500
From: Susan Davis <>
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology

Tom, this was a case where someone owned the rights to the title and chose
to move the journal away from the commercial publisher.  Said publisher
decided to keep publishing a competing journal.  (For those of you with
long memories remember the Bulletin of Hispanic Studies--Glasgow and
Liverpool editions).

So the commercial publisher published IJCS thru 2002, then started a new
journal, Comparative Sociology.  As far as we know IJCS is still published
(but by someone else).

As a subscriber you should have received many missives about this
situation, I know we did.

Several other journals were affected by this situation. Journal of Asian
and African Studies/African and Asian Studies is another one we subscribe

If you need more explanation, give me a call.  I'm responding to the list
in case anyone else has a question.  This is the quick and dirty version of


Susan Davis
Head, Periodicals
University at Buffalo (SUNY)
134 Lockwood Library
Buffalo, NY  14260-2210
(716) 645-2784
(716) 645-5955 fax

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:59:10 -0600
From: "Skwor, Jeanette" <>
Subject: RE: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology

***FWIW, Cofrin Library got the same issue of Comparative Sociology, & we don't
subscribe to the International Jrnl of Same.

***I think they're pushing the subscription.

***But then serials work has turned me into a skeptic . . .

Jeanette L. Skwor
Cofrin Library, Serials Dept.
University of WI - Green Bay
2420 Nicolet Drive
Green Bay, WI 54311-7001
(920) 465-2670

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:02:42 -0800
From: Gerald Saunders <>
Subject: RE: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology


This isn't a *complete* change of title:  the indicators for the 785 field
you noted in the record for IJCS are 01, meaning that Comparative Sociology
continued *in part* the earlier title (IJCS), which itself is still being
published.  So, yes, in a sense, there was a period when the two were being
published "simultaneously with different titles and volumes"... and still
are.  What difference there is in content to "justify" the new "spin-off"
title, isn't made clear in the OCLC master records:  perhaps there was some
announcement from the publisher in the first "sample" issue of Comparative
Sociology (v.1, no. 1 (2002)).

Hope this helps.

Gerald Saunders

Team Leader, Serials Acquisitions (SerAcq)
Project Leader, Serials Holdings Display Project (SHDP)
USC Information Services Division
213-740-0959 (fax)

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:05:43 -0500
From: Ann Gardner <>
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology

Dear Mr. Evans,
     The indicators on the records tell the story; Comparative
sociology has 780 07 meaning "separated from".  The IJCS record has 785
01 Comparative sociology, meaning "continued in part by". Therefore,
IJCS did not cease and that is why you are still receiving it as that
     The field indicators are list in OCLC Bibliographic Formats and
MARC 21 Bibliographic Formats.

Ann L. Gardner
Library Technical Assistant
Serials Cataloging/CONSER Unit
New York State Library
CEC, 6th Floor
Albany, N.Y.  12230

phone: (518) 474-7274

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:02:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] International Journal of Comparative Sociology

Notice the second indicators in fields 780 and 785.  Apparently the second
title split off from the first title, but the first title is still

Michael S. Borries
Cataloger, Office of Library Services, Central Office
City University of New York
555 West 57th Street, 16th Floor
New York, NY  10019
Phone: (212) 541-0376