John -- The title proper is defined as 245|a|n|p.  In this case, the title proper for the serial is "Manufacturing engineer" *not* "IEE manufacturing engineer."  In comparing each of the titles that appear on the later issues against the **title proper**, the difference between those two titles does not constitute a major change (as the situation falls under 21.2C2.b3 which you cited as a the rule justifying the change).

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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, John Radencich wrote:

> I'm not so sure.  For a major change "consider as a major change in title
> proper a change in a corporate body name given anywhere in the title if it is a
> different corporate body."  They may just be initials, but IET is a different
> name from IEE.  Or at least (and to emphasize) the organization the initials
> IET stands for is a different name from that of the organization the initials
> IEE stands for.  So I would feel compelled to go with major change.
> Furthermore, in the list of minor changes the third  category says "a
> difference involving the name of the same corporate body."  I'm afraid IET and
> IEE don't stand for the same corporate bodies.
>
>
> John Radencich
> Library-Cataloging Dept.
> Florida International University
>
>
> Steven C Shadle wrote:
>
>> Boy, this is a tough one, but I'm going to take a stab.
>>
>> The original title proper against which later titles are benchmarked is:
>>
>> Manufacturing engineer
>>
>> The addition of IEE in front of the title is a minor change.  The addition
>> of IET in front of the title would be a minor change.  As long as there is
>> no reference to the corporate body elsewhere in the serial's entry (eg,
>> uniform title qualifier, corporate body main entry), I would consider this a
>> minor change.
>>
>> And then there's the "In case of doubt, consider minor."
>>
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>>
>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, Peter Hosking wrote:
>>
>>> The Manufacturing engineer now has a different title but I'm unsure if
>>> this is a major or minor change. I've noticed that sn89013432 OCLC
>>> #19864213) has a variant title "Issues for <Mar./Apr. 2003> have title:
>>> IEE manufacturing engineer."    I'm guessing that "IEE manufacturing
>>> engineer" was considered to be a minor change.  The title has now become
>>> "The IET manufacturing engineer" with the April/May 2006 issue.  Could
>>> this latest change also be considered minor?
>>>
>>> The Manufacturing engineer was published by the Institution of
>>> Production Engineers. Since 1991 it has been issued by IEE, and now that
>>> IEE has changed its name, it is being issued by IET.
>>>
>>> Can someone guide me on this?
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Peter Hosking
>>> Serials Cataloguing Librarian
>>> Collection Services
>>> University of Canterbury Library
>>> Christchurch
>>> New Zealand
>>>
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