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Re: confusion over License language Carmel Yurochko (28 Oct 2008 18:48 UTC)

Re: confusion over License language Carmel Yurochko 28 Oct 2008 18:48 UTC

At a vendor's request and due to what they considered "systematic downloading", we take it to mean downloads with the assist of a robot or spider.  We notified the offender and access was returned to the problematic PC.

Yurochko

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From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Liping Song
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [SERIALST] confusion over License language

I second Katy. I think that's what "systematic" means in this context.

Liping

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Liping Song, MA, MTS, MLIS
Electronic Resources Cataloging and Access Librarian
Health Sciences Library System
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA 15261
412-648-3401
lsong@pitt.edu

Ginanni, Katy wrote:
> Ever since I saw the word "systematic" in Jenny's question, I've been thinking that it somehow referred to those improper uses where someone attempts to download hundreds of articles at a time, with help from a robot...
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> Katy G.
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> Katy Ginanni
> E-Access and Serials Librarian
> Coates Library, Trinity University
> San Antonio, TX 78212-7200
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> From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Kristen Fredericksen
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:10 AM
> To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SERIALST] confusion over License language
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> I was taught that "systematic" means "regular." So systematic copying
> would be like sending another library articles from every single issue.
> Obviously, ILL would be more sporadic. I think the second phrase allows
> for temporary creation of a file for ILL. For instance, you print out
> the article, then scan it into Ariel, and send it to another library. It
> seems that e-reserves are prohibited.
>
> That's just my $.02. Does anyone disagree with my interpretation?
>
> Thanks,
> Kristen
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> Jenny Lockwood wrote:
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>> Greetings,
>> I find many of our licenses have the following standard phrases:
>> 1."the systematic making of print or electronic copies of Online
>> Content for transmission to non-subscribers or non-subscribing
>> institutions (such as inter-library loans) is prohibited."
>> 2. "Downloading portions of Online Content for the purpose of creating
>> pre-loaded, systematic and persistent local copies (not including
>> transient, dynamic caches of individually requested material) for
>> redistribution is prohibited."
>>
>> 1.Does anyone have a clear insight into whether ILL or Electronic
>> Reserves are allowed under these restrictions?  If one is to interpret
>> that ILL is prohibited--why is the qualifier, systematic, included?
>> This phrase is included in licenses that reference fair use and those
>> that don't.
>> 2. Would Electronic Reserves be allowed or do you think the second
>> statement does not address this type of cache.
>> Thanks in advance for any enlightenment offered...
>>
>> Jenny
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