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Re: confusion over License language John Lucas 28 Oct 2008 20:01 UTC

I do not know if there are such automated programs (robots) that can download hundred of articles at a time however my interpretation of "systematic" is likened  to " the systematic destruction of the rainforest" that is to say that this program OR PERSON takes ALL the articles of an issue ; ALL the issues of a volume ==>

With Best Regards,

John Lucas

Serials Librarian
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>>> "Ginanni, Katy" <Katy.Ginanni@TRINITY.EDU> 10/28/2008 9:44 AM >>>
Ever since I saw the word "systematic" in Jenny's question, I've been thinking that it somehow referred to those improper uses where someone attempts to download hundreds of articles at a time, with help from a robot...

Katy G.

Katy Ginanni
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-----Original Message-----
From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [] On Behalf Of Kristen Fredericksen
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] confusion over License language

I was taught that "systematic" means "regular." So systematic copying
would be like sending another library articles from every single issue.
Obviously, ILL would be more sporadic. I think the second phrase allows
for temporary creation of a file for ILL. For instance, you print out
the article, then scan it into Ariel, and send it to another library. It
seems that e-reserves are prohibited.

That's just my $.02. Does anyone disagree with my interpretation?


Jenny Lockwood wrote:
> Greetings,
> I find many of our licenses have the following standard phrases:
> 1."the systematic making of print or electronic copies of Online
> Content for transmission to non-subscribers or non-subscribing
> institutions (such as inter-library loans) is prohibited."
> 2. "Downloading portions of Online Content for the purpose of creating
> pre-loaded, systematic and persistent local copies (not including
> transient, dynamic caches of individually requested material) for
> redistribution is prohibited."
> 1.Does anyone have a clear insight into whether ILL or Electronic
> Reserves are allowed under these restrictions?  If one is to interpret
> that ILL is prohibited--why is the qualifier, systematic, included?
> This phrase is included in licenses that reference fair use and those
> that don't.
> 2. Would Electronic Reserves be allowed or do you think the second
> statement does not address this type of cache.
> Thanks in advance for any enlightenment offered...
> Jenny


Kristen Fredericksen
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Serials/Fast Track Processing
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The Catholic University of America
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