Re: confusion over License language Sarah D. Tusa 28 Oct 2008 20:37 UTC
Yes, there are nasty little programs that people are using all over the world to automatically download articles. I don't know how well they work, but they do get detected by the database providers, and then your access gets shut down because some student (or other authorized user) either shares his/her login credentials, or accidentally leaves it somewhere, and the information apparently gets posted on a webpage with hundreds of other login credentials, and before you know it, someone in England or Saudi Arabia is automatically downloading articles out of old ACS journals, and you have to get your Systems Analyst to shut down some access points. That is "systematic" downloading. We make every reasonable effort to assure the authenticity of our users and to protect the terms of our license agreements, but there are some crafty little villains out there! Sarah Tusa, Associate Professor Coordinator of Collection Development & Acquisitions Mary & John Gray Library, Lamar University PO Box 10021 Beaumont, TX 77710-0021 Ph: 409/880-8125 Fax: 409/880-8225 -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of John Lucas Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:02 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] confusion over License language I do not know if there are such automated programs (robots) that can download hundred of articles at a time however my interpretation of "systematic" is likened to " the systematic destruction of the rainforest" that is to say that this program OR PERSON takes ALL the articles of an issue ; ALL the issues of a volume ==> With Best Regards, John Lucas Serials Librarian University of Mississippi Medical Center 2500 North State St Jackson, MS 39216-4505 (PH) (601) 984-1277 (FAX) (601) 815-4569 JLUCAS@ROWLAND.UMSMED.EDU >>> "Ginanni, Katy" <Katy.Ginanni@TRINITY.EDU> 10/28/2008 9:44 AM >>> Ever since I saw the word "systematic" in Jenny's question, I've been thinking that it somehow referred to those improper uses where someone attempts to download hundreds of articles at a time, with help from a robot... Katy G. Katy Ginanni E-Access and Serials Librarian Coates Library, Trinity University San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 210-999-7613 ph. 210-999-8182 fax katy.ginanni@trinity.edu "The time is always right to do what is right." -- MLK, Jr. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Kristen Fredericksen Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:10 AM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [SERIALST] confusion over License language I was taught that "systematic" means "regular." So systematic copying would be like sending another library articles from every single issue. Obviously, ILL would be more sporadic. I think the second phrase allows for temporary creation of a file for ILL. For instance, you print out the article, then scan it into Ariel, and send it to another library. It seems that e-reserves are prohibited. That's just my $.02. Does anyone disagree with my interpretation? Thanks, Kristen