Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness David Jaques-Watson (20 Jul 2015 09:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Kelly St. Clair (20 Jul 2015 11:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Craig Berry (20 Jul 2015 15:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Grimmund (20 Jul 2015 16:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Craig Berry (20 Jul 2015 16:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx (20 Jul 2015 23:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Craig Berry (20 Jul 2015 23:19 UTC)
RE: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Anthony Jackson (20 Jul 2015 23:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Craig Berry (20 Jul 2015 23:36 UTC)
RE: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Anthony Jackson (20 Jul 2015 23:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Craig Berry (21 Jul 2015 00:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Kelly St. Clair (21 Jul 2015 00:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Bettersituationalawareness Phil Pugliese (21 Jul 2015 15:48 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Rob O'Connor (21 Jul 2015 09:34 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx (21 Jul 2015 14:05 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Richard Aiken (21 Jul 2015 19:10 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Bruce Johnson (21 Jul 2015 20:03 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Phil Pugliese (21 Jul 2015 21:18 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Richard Aiken (21 Jul 2015 21:41 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Bruce Johnson (21 Jul 2015 22:19 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx (21 Jul 2015 21:45 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Bruce Johnson (21 Jul 2015 22:14 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Kurt Feltenberger (21 Jul 2015 22:39 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Bruce Johnson (21 Jul 2015 23:37 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness shadow@xxxxxx (22 Jul 2015 01:50 UTC)
Re:[TML]Bettersituationalawareness Rob O'Connor (23 Jul 2015 10:08 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Kurt Feltenberger (21 Jul 2015 22:38 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Kurt Feltenberger (21 Jul 2015 22:18 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Richard Aiken (22 Jul 2015 00:50 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Kurt Feltenberger (22 Jul 2015 01:06 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Phil Pugliese (22 Jul 2015 14:16 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Kurt Feltenberger (22 Jul 2015 16:08 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Phil Pugliese (22 Jul 2015 22:02 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Kurt Feltenberger (22 Jul 2015 22:31 UTC)
Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Richard Aiken (24 Jul 2015 00:02 UTC)

Re: [TML]Bettersituationalawareness Rob O'Connor 21 Jul 2015 09:34 UTC

Sorry all about the mangled table - it started out as fixed width plain
text.

David Jaques-Watson wrote:
 > Has anyone mentioned limiting thrusters by “gravitational drag”
 > (or similar handwave)?

Yes.
So drives have an upper limit of delta-v, for whatever reason.
One question is how well 6G thrusters compared to 1G ones.

 > I always figured that if thrusters are magic-tech, it should be
 > easy enough to “un-magic” them…

There is a very large can of worms in the way.
Getting them to obey conservation of energy has big implications for all
the design rules.

Free kinetic energy is being obtained from somewhere with the rules as
written. This has implications for the rest of the setting unless
perpetual motion machines can 'only' work out in space.

 > Which could be 1% of lightspeed for a 1G drive, up to 6% of
 > lightspeed for a 6G drive.

With the rules as written, distance traveled over a one week trip equals
6AU per G thrust.
At 6G thrust, peak velocity before starting deceleration is very close
to 6% of c.
The required power is on the order of 84MW per kg of vehicle mass,
assuming 100% efficient conversion of input energy to kinetic energy.

Kelly St. Clair wrote:
 > Any form of travel energetic enough to get the PCs from point A
 > to point B in a reasonable amount of time can probably be
 > converted, somehow, into a big enough BOOM to absolutely ruin a lot
 > of people's days.

Agreed, to a point.

We can redefine 'reasonable' to avoid violating conservation of energy
or relativity calculations.

The reduction of delta-v available would increase the rate of in-system
jumps and/or the role of low berths.

It would also change space combat and likely eliminate the need for
gravitic laser focusing, among other handwaves.

Dan/Grimmund wrote:
 > OTOH, ships are multi-million credit investments. Presumably there
 > are some safety interlocks involved in the operating system.

The PC ship is analogous to the small aircraft flown by bush pilots or
tramp freighters/"The African Queen".

So there's some safety features built into the vehicle. In more
populated areas there's traffic control and enforcement of 'road rules'.

The final, most important level of safety is the training of the
operator. Sadly most PCs eschew this.

Rob O'Connor