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Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 16:54:02 -0400
From: "L-Soft list server at UVM (1.8e)" <LISTSERV@LIST.UVM.EDU>
Subject: SERIALST: approval required (365347AC)


***It wasn't that long ago when "they" didn't like us to share what the
men were being paid vs. what the women got, either.

Jeanette L. Skwor
Cofrin Library, Serials Dept.
University of WI - Green Bay
2420 Nicolet Drive
Green Bay, WI 54311-7001
(920) 465-2670

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan E. Sturgeon [mailto:susan.sturgeon@SALEMSTATE.EDU]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: curiousity about service charges

And I can't think of a better reason to do so.  As Librarians we try
to enlighten, not keep things in the dark and out of the realm of
comparison.  Susan Sturgeon

On Fri, 9 May 2003 10:44:34 -0700 Carol
Morse <MorsCa@WWC.EDU> wrote:

> We were told that our service charge is confidential. I doubt if the
> vendors would like you to share it.
> Carol Morse
> **********************************************************************
> Carol Morse                                 Tel.  509) 527-2684
> Serials Librarian                            Fax  509) 527-2001
> Walla Walla College Library                 Email
> 104 S. College Ave.
> College Place, WA  99324-1159
> Give us strength for the journey and wisdom to know the way.
> ***********************************************************************
> >>> ashroye@EXCHANGE.CALSTATELA.EDU 05/08/03 03:27PM >>>
> Dear Serialsts,
> My library recently eliminated a fair number of pricey journal titles in
> favor of electronic access to those same titles, and we have seen our
> service charge with our main subscription agent go up a bit as a result.
> This, of course, is arguably legitimate given our new "mix of titles".
> I'm just curious what other individual libraries are paying now in service
> charges.  I'd especially like to compare notes with libraries of
> roughly the same size (we subscribe to 2,300 current titles, and pay roughly
> $550,000 per year for our journals).  My intention is not to do any "study"--as
> doing so would require careful analysis of the "mix of titles" peculiar to
> all of the insitutions compared.  For the latter reason,  I am not in favor
> of posting specific service charge rates to the listserv.  I just hope to
> correspond with a few other curious librarians on the topic.
> If you are among "the curious", please write directly to me at:
>   Thank you.
> --Andrew Shroyer

Susan Sturgeon
Serials Librarian
Salem State College Library
352 Lafayette St.
Salem, MA 01970
(978) 542-6765


Subject: Re: curiousity about service charges
From: "Diane M Lewis" <>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:17:10 -0400

Maybe some brave soul who's ready to retire and possessed of bottomless
pockets will take up the cudgel...on the other hand, a lawsuit filed by a
giant publishing conglomerate against a tiny, nonprofit library which DARES
to reveal their prices might make for some interesting news stories....

Diane M. Lewis, Serial Records Librarian
U.S. Geological Survey Library--MS950
Reston, Virginia  20192  USA
Tel. 703-648-4399
Fax 703-648-6376

"Everything that's done by the government is done in your name.  You are
responsible whether you like it or not."--Helen Thomas


From: "Peter Picerno" <>
Subject: RE: curiousity about service charges
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:53:54 -0400

I don't believe that service charges can be gag-ordered. There was a similar
thread about charges with another electronic vendor either on this list or
on Liblicense which explored many of the ramifications of such
vendor-imposed gag orders, and among them was the fact that in most public
institutions all of their financial transactions are matters of public
record which would seriously inhibit signing contracts where fees were not
able to be disclosed to the public.

P Picerno