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Re: Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions van Sickle, Jennifer 20 Apr 2005 14:41 UTC

Actually, in reference to Kim Maxwell's statement, one could argue that
Elsevier *is* making it difficult for libraries from supporting research
by charging exorbitant prices and requiring no-cancel contracts for
ScienceDirect (which we do not have).  If indeed they do impose
associated restrictions as we've been discussing, then they prevent
faculty from having access as well.

Undergraduate liberal arts colleges don't have the deep pockets to
support numerous expensive journals used for faculty research.  We've
had to cut subscriptions in the last few years due to budget problems.
Our primary obligation is to provide materials for student research and
assignments.  As it is now, we pay hefty fees to have Nature and Science
online, but at least they are heavily used by students and faculty.

-Jennifer

Jennifer van Sickle
Serials Librarian/Sciences Coordinator
Trinity College Library
300 Summit St.
Hartford, CT USA 06106

phone: 860-297-2250
fax: 860-297-2251
jennifer.vansickle@trincoll.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Kim Maxwell
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:49 PM
To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions

I think what they're saying (and someone from Elsevier can correct me if
I'm wrong) is that they title is *only* available at the "discounted"
personal rate if the person in question is affiliated with an
institution
that subscribes to the journal.  In other words, my grandmother (who is
in
no way connected to the field of chemistry) couldn't start up her own
personal subscription to Tetrahedron Letters; if she wanted one, she'd
need
to pay the institutional rate.  She could only pay the personal rate if
she
were affiliated with an institution that paid for a copy at the
institutional rate.  The mailing address has no bearing on the price;
only
the institutional affiliation and associated institutional subscription
does.

As to your question "how can they prevent an individual research from
obtaining needed information," they aren't preventing it.  They are a
commercial entity with a price structure that may make it difficult for
some individuals, but it isn't illegal to my knowledge.  It isn't
Elsevier's fault that a researcher at a given institution can't get the
support she needs, in terms of this subscription, for her research from
the
institution itself.

Kim

_________________________________________________
Kim Maxwell
Serials Acquisitions Librarian
Associate Head, Acquisitions & Licensing Services
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
MIT Libraries, Room 14E-210
77 Massachusetts Ave.
Cambridge, MA 02139-4307
phone: 1-617-253-7028
fax:   1-617-253-2464
email: kmaxwell@mit.edu

At 02:39 PM 4/19/2005 -0400, Koveleskie, Judith wrote:
>What if the faculty member had it sent to a different address?  How
>would Elsevier know?
>
>I understand that they don't want faculty copies, paid for at a lower
>rate, to drift into the library collection, but how can they prevent
and
>individual researcher from obtaining needed information?
>
>
>Judith A. Koveleskie
>Periodicals Librarian
>Seton Hill University
>Reeves Memorial Library
>Greensburg, PA 15601
>724-838-7828
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
>[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of van Sickle, Jennifer
>Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:56 PM
>To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
>Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions
>
>Julie,
>
>Yes, Elsevier will not allow individual faculty to subscribe to
>particular journals unless the college/university library has a
>subscription as well.  I confirmed this with their customer service
>department.
>
>-Jennifer
>
>Jennifer van Sickle
>Serials Librarian/Sciences Coordinator
>Trinity College Library
>300 Summit St.
>Hartford, CT USA 06106
>
>phone: 860-297-2250
>fax: 860-297-2251
>jennifer.vansickle@trincoll.edu
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
>[mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Blake, Julie C.
>Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:29 PM
>To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
>Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions
>
>Jennifer,
>
>         Well, I haven't heard of this at all, because I'm not even
sure
>what you're saying. By "restricting" do you mean that Elsevier will not
>allow individual faculty to subscribe if the organizational library
>doesn't? That seems like a real way to lose even more customers! Except
>for research institutions, most of us can't afford to support
individual
>faculty research, so I can think of lots of instances in which an
>individual would want a subscription that the library doesn't have. Or
>are they simply refusing to allow the issues to be donated to a
library?
>That I can more easily understand.
>
>Julie
>
>Julie C. Blake
>Collection Management Coordinator and Asst. Professor LR&TS, St. Cloud
>State University
>320-308-4756
>jcblake@stcloudstate.edu
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
> > [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of van Sickle, Jennifer
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:18 AM
> > To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
> > Subject: [SERIALST] Elsevier 'associated' subscriptions
> >
> > Dear Serialst-ers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps I missed this, but I was unaware of Elsevier's policy of
> > restricting individual subscriptions unless the corresponding
library
> > subscribes too.  This applies to some of their journals, but the
> > customer service rep did not know the criteria for choosing which
> > journals this applies to.
> > Does anyone know if this is a new policy, or is something that was
> > under my radar?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jennifer
> >
> >
> >
> > Jennifer van Sickle
> >
> > Serials Librarian/Sciences Coordinator
> >
> > Trinity College Library
> >
> > 300 Summit St.
> >
> > Hartford, CT USA 06106
> >
> >
> >
> > phone: 860-297-2250
> >
> > fax: 860-297-2251
> >
> > jennifer.vansickle@trincoll.edu
> >
> >
> >