I think Barbara is speaking from a practical collection management perspective and Bill from a more "content" collection management perspective. I interpreted Barbara's question to be about how to predict what is supposed to come next physically in the mail and when. Bill seems to be interpreting it as being about what kind of content comes with each title in a year (in terms of page numbers). I think T&F made this switch to lower their distribution costs; they *are* focusing more on the content, making the online available way before the print, and offering print as an "archival" option if you will. T&F is doing something that makes sense to them from a business standpoint. Barbara is frustrated because she now can't predict something that formerly was predictable. I don't have an easy solution, but I think the key is to work with T&F staff to show them how and why making the print predictable is a good thing both for libraries and for T&F itself. Kim _________________________________________________ Kim Maxwell Serials Acquisitions Librarian Associate Head, Acquisitions & Licensing Services Massachusetts Institute of Technology MIT Libraries, Room 14E-210 77 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 phone: 1-617-253-7028 fax: 1-617-253-2464 email: kmaxwell@mit.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum > [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of William Cohen > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:43 PM > To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU > Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Taylor & Francis printing snafu > > Barbara: > > If the anticipated # of print pages, over an extended period > of time, is more than you had been receiving, you may be > gaining an advantage. > > If the anticipated # of print pages, over an extended period > of time, is problematic--then you may want to consider an > internal re-assessment depending on your collection > management policies. > > As with many factors involving serials, any judgment made > quickly may or may not be helpful in the long-term economic > and collection management > picture. Some colleagues in other institutions may share > your specific > needs, but some may not. > > Bill Cohen, Publisher > The Haworth Press, Inc. > www.HaworthPress.com > > > > Dietsch.Barbara@EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV wrote: > > Hello other SERIALSTs, > > > > I've come up against a publisher printing change that has really > > messed up my check-in and claiming of journal issues. I'd > like to see > > what others on the list are doing in reaction to this change. > > > > Taylor & Francis (BTW, previously one of my favorite > publishers) has > > really thrown a wrench into my work. I guess to save > printing costs, > > they have begun printing several distinct journal issues in > a "combined" > > print issue. This is not truly a combined issue because the > > enumeration on their website for the online content is specifically > > broken up so that most issues remain as single no. for the > issue, and > > T & F actually has a notation on the print cover saying > that the issue > > contains several nos. See the examples below. > > > > The other aspect of this screwy printing is that when a researcher > > looks for a current issue and can't find it, they often > come to me or > > the reference staff to find out when the issue is expected. > > Obviously, I now can't tell them the correct issue > information. This > > frustrates the patron, the reference staff and me. > > > > Two examples: > > > > Example 1 > > > > Inhalation Toxicology > > Print ISSN: 0895-8378 > > Online ISSN: 1091-7691 > > Frequency: 14 issues per year > > (frequency taken from their website) > > > > From the online edition: > > > > Volume 18 > > Number 10 / September 2006 > > Number 8 / July 2006 > > Number 7 / June 2006 > > Number 6 / May 15 2006 > > Number 5 / May 1 2006 > > Number 4 / April 2006 > > Number 3 / March 2006 > > Number 2 / February 2006 > > Number 1 / January 2006 > > > > From the print issues: > > > > Volume 18 > > Number 7-10 / 2006 > > (no issue date but says on the cover "Included in this > print edition: > > Number 7 (June), Number 8 (July), Number 9 (August), Number 10 > > (September)") > > Number 3-6 / 2006 > > (no issue date but says on the cover "Included in this > print edition: > > Number 3 (February 1), Number 4 (February 15), Number 5 (March 1), > > Number 6 (April 1)") > > Number 1-2 / 2006 > > (no issue date but says on the cover "Included in this > print edition: > > Number 1 (January 1), Number 2 (January 15)") > > > > Example 2 > > > > Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, Part A Print ISSN: > > 1528-7394 Online ISSN: 1087-2620 > > Frequency: 24 issues per year > > > > From the online edition: > > > > Volume 69 > > Number 15 / August 1 2006 > > Number 14 / July 15 2006 > > Number 13 / July 1 2006 > > Number 12 / June 15 2006 > > Number 11 / June 1 2006 > > Number 10 / May 15 2006 > > Number 9 / May 1 2006 > > Number 7-8 / April 9 2006 > > Number 6 / March 26 2006 > > Number 5 / March 12 2006 > > Number 4 / February 27 2006 > > Number 3 / February 2006 > > Number 1-2 / January 8 2006 > > > > From the print issues: > > > > Number 5-6 / 2006 > > (no issue date but says on the cover "Included in this > print edition: > > Number 5 (March 1), Number 6 (March 15)") > > Number 3-4 / 2006 > > (no issue date but says on the cover "Included in this > print edition: > > Number 3 (February 1), Number 4 (February 15)") > > Number 1-2 / January 8 2006 > > (this one is the same enumeration as the online edition) > > > > So, as you can see, claiming can be a problem. I can't use the > > publisher website for issue enumeration and dates. This means more > > claiming which results in more work for everyone; me, the > subscription > > vendor, and even Taylor & Francis customer service. > > > > This difference in enumeration and dates also means I can't > set up my > > serials management program to predict next issues, etc. > > > > What to do?? What enumeration do I use in my check-in? "Correct" > > enumeration from the website or the print issue cover volume and > > numbers??!! This is the first time I've come up against this. > > > > Fellow serialists, what are you doing about this? If this > has already > > been brought up on the listserv, I missed it. > > > > Thanks for your feedback! > > > > barb > > > > barb dietsch | serials coordinator > > epa library | unc contract staff > > 109 tw alexander drive | mail code c267-01 research > triangle park, nc > > 27711 > > phone: 919.541.0726 > > fax: 919.541.1405 > > dietsch.barbara@epa.gov > > >