Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Jeff Zeitlin (27 Jun 2020 19:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Timothy Collinson (27 Jun 2020 19:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Catherine Berry (27 Jun 2020 20:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Phil Pugliese (30 Jun 2020 23:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Jeff Zeitlin (30 Jun 2020 23:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas RUX (27 Jun 2020 22:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Jeff Zeitlin (28 Jun 2020 00:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas RUX (28 Jun 2020 01:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive James Catchpole (27 Jun 2020 23:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Catherine Berry (28 Jun 2020 00:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas RUX (28 Jun 2020 01:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Jeff Zeitlin (29 Jun 2020 22:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Kelly St. Clair (29 Jun 2020 23:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Cian Witherspoon (30 Jun 2020 00:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas Jones-Low (28 Jun 2020 03:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Alex Goodwin (28 Jun 2020 04:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas Jones-Low (28 Jun 2020 10:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Alex Goodwin (28 Jun 2020 11:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Rupert Boleyn (28 Jun 2020 11:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas Jones-Low (28 Jun 2020 12:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Alex Goodwin (28 Jun 2020 12:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Jun 2020 18:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Phil Pugliese (01 Jul 2020 21:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Alex Goodwin (28 Jun 2020 05:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Jun 2020 09:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas Jones-Low (28 Jun 2020 13:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Cian Witherspoon (28 Jun 2020 15:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Phil Pugliese (02 Jul 2020 10:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive kaladorn@xxxxxx (02 Jul 2020 16:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas RUX (02 Jul 2020 19:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas RUX (02 Jul 2020 18:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Phil Pugliese (04 Jul 2020 09:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas RUX (04 Jul 2020 13:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Phil Pugliese (05 Jul 2020 06:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas RUX (05 Jul 2020 23:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Rupert Boleyn (28 Jun 2020 17:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Vareck Bostrom (28 Jun 2020 18:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Jun 2020 19:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Vareck Bostrom (28 Jun 2020 21:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Bruce Johnson (29 Jun 2020 03:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Vareck Bostrom (29 Jun 2020 03:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Rupert Boleyn (29 Jun 2020 09:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Phil Pugliese (01 Jul 2020 06:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Rupert Boleyn (28 Jun 2020 11:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Alex Goodwin (28 Jun 2020 11:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Alex Goodwin (28 Jun 2020 11:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Thomas Jones-Low (28 Jun 2020 12:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Rupert Boleyn (28 Jun 2020 12:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Phil Pugliese (30 Jun 2020 23:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Jeff Zeitlin (30 Jun 2020 23:41 UTC)

Re: [TML] Waving Hands Over The Jump Drive Rupert Boleyn 28 Jun 2020 11:04 UTC


On 28Jun2020 1525, Thomas Jones-Low wrote:
>
> The other thing to keep in mind is developing the Jump Drive is a
> difficult challenge. It’s only been done seven times in in the history
> of Charted Space. Based on the outcomes of the misjumps and a few
> other statements, the process of entering jump space is an unstable,
> chaotic one. You, the Astrogator and the computer system you are using
> need to know a number of factors to a high degree accuracy.
The jump drive, as it was originally described, was a quite reliable
piece of kit. You could only misjump using the original '77 rules if you
jumped too close to a world or star (and the star part is explicit),
were using unrefined fuel, or your drive was past due for maintenance.
The chance was 12+, -1 if using refined fuel (i.e. no chance at all) if
you did things right.

The '81 version changes things somewhat - using unrefined fuel is
perfectly safe in a scout of military ship, stars are no longer
mentioned as causing problems, there's an extra DM for being within 10
diameters of a world (in case within 100 diameters wasn't scary enough),
lack of drive maintenence doesn't make misjumps more likely, and a bad
enough roll can destroy a ship rather than just cause a misjump.

In both versions, given the size of the computers required for jumps,
especially long ones, it seems that finding a 'course' that gets you
where you want to go is hard, but without it it seems that actually you
just go nowhere.

In MegaTraveller there are a series of tasks required before you can
jump, but the same rules applies - if you play it safe there's no chance
of a misjump.

In TNE the same applies, but there's also a Piloting roll upon
emergence, and a poor roll on that means emerging with an inconvenient
vector.

T4, I'm not sure of the way it's expressed, but I think it's like the
original '77 rules, but without the bonus for refined fuel. If so, this
is the first set of rules that gives a chance of a misjump when you're
doing everything right.

GURPS Traveller allows a small chance of something going wrong on a jump
even if you play it safe, and there's some chance this will be a
misjump, but they should be very rare unless the ship's engineer has a
low skill level.

T20 is less than clear (I assume the DC21 check for misjump is a typo,
because otherwise it's automatic), but seems to imply that with a
low-skill astrogator it'll be fairly common, but most misjumps just
damage machinery or mess with the occupants - about 1in20 are 'go who
knows where' events, and 1in10 are 'game over'.

MgT requires an engineering check, modified for bad fuel, etc., which
means that a skill engineer can safely jump when common wisdom says you
really shouldn't (something that's also a thing in MT, TNE, and GT).

I don't know T5 well enough to be sure of the odds of misjumps, and
don't have access to other Hero Traveller.

Overall, the newer the rule system, the worse your odds, it seems.

--
Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>