Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (22 Aug 2020 18:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Thomas RUX (22 Aug 2020 23:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (23 Aug 2020 22:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Aug 2020 04:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (23 Aug 2020 23:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Aug 2020 00:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Phil Pugliese (25 Aug 2020 03:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Thomas Jones-Low (25 Aug 2020 04:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Aug 2020 05:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (25 Aug 2020 11:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Rupert Boleyn (25 Aug 2020 04:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Aug 2020 05:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Kelly St. Clair (25 Aug 2020 07:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Timothy Collinson (25 Aug 2020 09:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Alex Goodwin (25 Aug 2020 15:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Timothy Collinson (25 Aug 2020 15:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Alex Goodwin (25 Aug 2020 15:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Timothy Collinson (25 Aug 2020 15:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Postmark (25 Aug 2020 19:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (25 Aug 2020 15:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Timothy Collinson (25 Aug 2020 16:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Alex Goodwin (25 Aug 2020 16:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (25 Aug 2020 17:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Aug 2020 18:39 UTC)
[TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Kelly St. Clair (26 Aug 2020 05:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Kelly St. Clair (26 Aug 2020 05:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Kelly St. Clair (26 Aug 2020 05:36 UTC)
Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (27 Aug 2020 00:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Aug 2020 02:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (28 Aug 2020 03:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Aug 2020 04:19 UTC)
(missing)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) kaladorn@xxxxxx (29 Aug 2020 05:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (29 Aug 2020 18:17 UTC)
(missing)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Kelly St. Clair (30 Aug 2020 20:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts kaladorn@xxxxxx (30 Aug 2020 20:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Jeff Zeitlin (30 Aug 2020 21:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Phil Pugliese (30 Aug 2020 21:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts David Johnson (30 Aug 2020 22:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Rupert Boleyn (31 Aug 2020 00:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Thomas Jones-Low (30 Aug 2020 20:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Jeff Zeitlin (30 Aug 2020 21:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts David Johnson (30 Aug 2020 23:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Phil Pugliese (30 Aug 2020 23:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Rupert Boleyn (31 Aug 2020 00:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Rupert Boleyn (06 Sep 2020 02:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Kenneth Barns (06 Sep 2020 11:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Timothy Collinson (06 Sep 2020 11:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Jim Catchpole (06 Sep 2020 12:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (01 Sep 2020 01:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) Thomas RUX (28 Aug 2020 13:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (29 Aug 2020 03:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game Hubert Figuiere (28 Aug 2020 15:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game Phil Pugliese (28 Aug 2020 16:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game Timothy Collinson (28 Aug 2020 16:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game Jeff Zeitlin (28 Aug 2020 16:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Aug 2020 17:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs kaladorn@xxxxxx (26 Aug 2020 06:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Phil Pugliese (26 Aug 2020 17:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Aug 2020 02:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) kaladorn@xxxxxx (26 Aug 2020 06:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Christopher Sean Hilton (27 Aug 2020 16:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Christopher Sean Hilton (27 Aug 2020 16:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Aug 2020 17:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) David Johnson (28 Aug 2020 03:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Timothy Collinson (28 Aug 2020 10:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Thomas Jones-Low (28 Aug 2020 12:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Christopher Sean Hilton (28 Aug 2020 15:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Aug 2020 16:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Timothy Collinson (28 Aug 2020 16:50 UTC)
When RPG's become CRPG's... Phil Pugliese (28 Aug 2020 22:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Thomas RUX (29 Aug 2020 23:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Thomas RUX (29 Aug 2020 23:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Phil Pugliese (30 Aug 2020 00:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Thomas RUX (30 Aug 2020 02:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Phil Pugliese (29 Aug 2020 23:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Hubert Figuiere (30 Aug 2020 00:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Thomas RUX (30 Aug 2020 02:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) David Johnson (29 Aug 2020 03:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) kaladorn@xxxxxx (29 Aug 2020 05:08 UTC)
Sig file (was: UWPs) David Johnson (30 Aug 2020 03:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Sig file (was: UWPs) kaladorn@xxxxxx (30 Aug 2020 04:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Timothy Collinson (31 Aug 2020 10:13 UTC)

Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin 23 Aug 2020 23:01 UTC

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 00:04:32 -0400, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote to Freelance
Traveller:

>Question:
>Jeff, is the choice to go to numerics for Spaceports and retain alphabetics
>for Starports a conscious choice to give an immediate queue to what on is
>dealing with? Or was there another reason to change Spaceport codes to
>numerics?

That depends on how you want to define 'spaceport' rather than 'starport'.
You'll note that the numeric codes are for what I called "secondary
starports". I would consider the difference between "starport" and
"spaceport" to be that a "starport" can handle interstellar traffic
directly; a "spaceport" only handles in-system traffic. The difference
between the "primary" starport and a "secondary" starport would generally
be the traffic levels.

>I'd looked at your stuff on Starports before and found it interesting, but
>I didn't give it the depth of focus to really see how it would look over a
>diverse array of systems one might want to model.
>
>The requirement to have ship repair and ship building (and that jump ship
>building only happens at an A type starport) is kind of senseless since it
>is unlikely that any emergent culture might want to build their own jump
>ships but don't have an A class facility... so they just 'Ah, until we can
>afford the A class port, we can't build any local ships folks... SPA rules.
>Sorry.'?

I happen to agree, and were I designing the UWP from scratch, I would
separate out "port" from "yards" - and I would separate out "repair yards"
from "construction yards". However, for this particular thread, I stayed
with the standard, which includes a yard, because that's how it was written
and kept since 1977.

>> (This should probably be read in association with my article "Extending the
>> UWP: Starports", Freelance Traveller, May 2013rp, and
>> http://www.freelancetraveller.com/features/rules/expuwp/starports.html)

A general note, since a couple of people asked off-list...

If I give an issue reference for an article on Freelance Traveller's
website, and it ends in "rp" as the above, it means that the article itself
predated Freelance Traveller _magazine_, but was reprinted (rp=RePrint)
from the website in the indicated issue. If an article appears first in the
magazine, but is reprinted in a later issue for whatever reason, I'll try
to give both dates, e.g., "May 2011, September 2015rp". In this case, "rp"
still means reprint, but from the issue that is noted without the "rp".

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