Thanks very much for the info.

I hope that, when your project is finished, that you will post the data (or a link) on the TML.

p.s. Also, when you say 'COTI', do you mean the mailing list or the 'forum'? I haven't been to forum in quite some time but I'm on the mailing list & haven't gotten anything since an announce from 'FarFuture' a long time ago.

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On Thu, 10/23/14, xxxxxx@comcast.net <xxxxxx@comcast.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML] Original CT LBB's scoutship vs CT HG scoutship?
 To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
 Date: Thursday, October 23, 2014, 2:40 PM

 Hello
 Phil Pugliese,

  
 The short answer is: Andrea Vallance's High Guard
 Shipyard application has from what I can see all of the
 published designs built using LBB 5.
  
 The longer answer (aka whining) is: On another note
 most of the original designs where built using LBB 2
 Starships 1st edition rules that was published in 1977.
 Unfortunately, none of the designs appear to have been
 checked with LBB 2 Starships 2nd edition that came out in
 1981.
  
 Under the LBB 2 Starships 1st edition construction
 rules the designer of the express boat interpreted the rule
 on page 13 "The installed power plant must be of a
 letter type at least equal to the drive letter of the
 installed drive (the power plant letter may be higher than
 the maneuver drive letter.)" to mean that the power
 plant could be dispensed with since no maneuver drive was
 installed.
  
 Based on LBB 2 1st edition page 11: "Each
 starships is fitted with a power plant (to provide internal
 power and power the maneuver drive), a maneuver drive (for
 interplanetary travel), and a jump drive (for interstellar
 jumps)." I'm not sure that you can dispense with
 the maneuver drive.
  
 LBB 2 Starships 2nd edition page 13 states "A
 starship must have a jump drive and a maneuver drive; a
 maneuver drive may also be installed, but is not
 required.", which clearly indicates that the LBB 2 1st
 edition express boat design needed to be redesigned.
 Unfortunately, the redesign appeared to have been and still
 appears to be at the bottom of a priority list
 somewhere.
  
 Sorry to get so far a field, but I'm working my way
 through Supplement 7 using LBB 2 2nd edition and found I
 couldn't recreate the express boat. When I ran into
 trouble I began asking questions over at COTI.
  
 I've got two goals in mind the first goal is to
 run the designs through using the Book 5 rules for combining
 LBB 2 maneuver drives, jump drives, and/or power plant in
 the HG design and construction process. The second goal is
 to recreate the designs using the straight HG design and
 construction process.
  
 Tom Rux
  

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 To:
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 Sent:
 Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:20:32 AM
 Subject: [TML] Original CT LBB's
 scoutship vs CT HG scoutship?

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 (xxxxxx@yahoo.com) has been replaced with a dummy one.
 The original message follows:

 As I recall, the legacy 3I scout
 ship was originally designed using the original set of CT
 LBB's.

 Has anyone tried using CT LBB5
 (HG) to design a similar vessel?

 As I recall, there *were* some
 differences 'tween the two.
 (In fact, I
 believe CT HG even had a comment that it was acceptable to
 design ships up to 1000dT's under either system)
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