Finding transport David Shaw (06 May 2015 16:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Richard Aiken (06 May 2015 17:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Richard Aiken (06 May 2015 17:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Ethan McKinney (06 May 2015 17:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Thomas Jones-Low (06 May 2015 17:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Ethan McKinney (06 May 2015 18:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Richard Aiken (06 May 2015 18:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Bruce Johnson (06 May 2015 20:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Craig Berry (06 May 2015 20:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport sjard (06 May 2015 20:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (07 May 2015 00:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Bruce Johnson (07 May 2015 14:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (07 May 2015 16:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Craig Berry (07 May 2015 16:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (07 May 2015 17:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Richard Aiken (08 May 2015 00:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Craig Berry (08 May 2015 00:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Richard Aiken (08 May 2015 01:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Bruce Johnson (08 May 2015 15:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (08 May 2015 16:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Richard Aiken (09 May 2015 07:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (09 May 2015 10:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport kaladorn@xxxxxx (15 Apr 2020 04:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (15 Apr 2020 23:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Kenneth Barns (16 Apr 2020 23:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Timothy Collinson (17 Apr 2020 14:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Kenneth Barns (18 Apr 2020 03:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Timothy Collinson (18 Apr 2020 04:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Bruce Johnson (18 Apr 2020 17:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Kenneth Barns (19 Apr 2020 02:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Richard Aiken (21 Apr 2020 19:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Apr 2020 07:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (24 Apr 2020 18:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport kaladorn@xxxxxx (15 Apr 2020 04:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (08 May 2015 16:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (06 May 2015 23:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Craig Berry (07 May 2015 00:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (07 May 2015 00:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Richard Aiken (07 May 2015 07:07 UTC)
TL, Trade and You [WAS: Re: [TML] Finding transport] Greg Nokes (07 May 2015 15:22 UTC)
Re: TL, Trade and You [WAS: Re: [TML] Finding transport] shadow@xxxxxx (07 May 2015 23:49 UTC)
Re: TL, Trade and You [WAS: Re: [TML] Finding transport] Phil Pugliese (08 May 2015 15:55 UTC)
Re: TL, Trade and You [WAS: Re: [TML] Finding transport] Richard Aiken (08 May 2015 00:04 UTC)
Re: TL, Trade and You [WAS: Re: [TML] Finding transport] Phil Pugliese (08 May 2015 15:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (07 May 2015 15:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Craig Berry (06 May 2015 20:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Thomas Jones-Low (06 May 2015 21:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Craig Berry (06 May 2015 21:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Thomas Jones-Low (06 May 2015 21:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Craig Berry (06 May 2015 21:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Kelly St. Clair (06 May 2015 22:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Craig Berry (06 May 2015 22:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (07 May 2015 00:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese (07 May 2015 00:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport kaladorn@xxxxxx (15 Apr 2020 04:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport kaladorn@xxxxxx (15 Apr 2020 04:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport kaladorn@xxxxxx (15 Apr 2020 03:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Finding transport shadow@xxxxxx (16 Apr 2020 21:42 UTC)

Re: [TML] Finding transport Phil Pugliese 06 May 2015 23:58 UTC

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On Wed, 5/6/15, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML] Finding transport
 To: "xxxxxx@simplelists.com" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2015, 1:22 PM

 > On
 May 6, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 >
 > On Wed,
 May 6, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Ethan McKinney <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 > The actual number of hulls going
 back and forth isn't going to increase at the same rate
 as the increase in passenger traffic because the size of the
 hulls is also going to increase with traffic volume.
 >
 >
 > Wouldn't there also be jump lag
 involved? E.g. it would take time for it to become known
 that Route X needed more passage space, while Route Y
 didn't need as much. 
 >

 Again, we’re running into
 the issue of is the OTU small trade or big trade.

 All of the trade rules in all
 the supplements are oriented towards PC scale ships; ie:
 free traders.

 If there’s
 a LOT of trade between systems in the OTU, then pretty much
 any passage you ant is available, presuming the systems in
 question are large enough to warrant the traffic. Akin to
 airline travel in the US today. The PC-scale stuff is
 equivalent small single aircraft bush pilots or charters,
 which is all well and fine, but I don’t hire a bush pilot
 to fly between NY and London.

 If not, travel on small PC-scale ships is all
 there is.

 (and I contend
 that the OTU simply could not exist with so little trade
 between systems).

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Well charters are hired for travel  'tween NY & London (one advantage of charters are less intrusive/abusive security).

Also, I don't think most of use would call 20,000dT  merchant ships 'PC-scale'.

And I contend that that the OTU can & does exist quite nicely w/o 'monster' class bulk haulers.
It just depends on which macro-economic formulae you choose to use.
If you like humongous merchant ships then pick an econ system that requires them.
If you don't then pick one that doesn't.

After all, it's stll just 'make-believe', esp. considering that just about all planetary systems have an essentially infinite supply of  raw material.

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