Rusting in space Knapp (01 Jan 2016 23:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Kelly St. Clair (01 Jan 2016 23:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Rusting in space Richard Aiken (03 Jan 2016 01:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Richard Aiken (02 Jan 2016 11:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Greg Chalik (02 Jan 2016 22:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Knapp (02 Jan 2016 09:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Neil Mahoney (02 Jan 2016 09:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Rusting in space Bruce Johnson (02 Jan 2016 23:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Bill Rutherford (02 Jan 2016 01:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Richard Aiken (02 Jan 2016 02:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Tim (02 Jan 2016 03:08 UTC)
RE: [TML] Rusting in space Antony Farrell (02 Jan 2016 04:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Greg Chalik (02 Jan 2016 04:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Rusting in space Tim (02 Jan 2016 02:43 UTC)

Re: [TML] Rusting in space Tim 02 Jan 2016 02:43 UTC

On Sat, Jan 02, 2016 at 12:15:00AM +0100, Knapp wrote:
> What sort of corrosion would you have in space?
> Would a sheet of iron rust in a near earth orbit?

Yes, eventually.  In near Earth orbits, there are traces of oxygen in
the form of highly reactive individual atoms instead of the usual
bound molecular pairs.  The concentrations are extremely low, but an
orbiting object sweeps through a huge volume over the course of a few
years.  The relative speeds also contribute plenty of energy to the
reactions that occur.

> If so how long would it take compared to at ocean level on the
> earth?

That's sort of a "how long is a piece of string" question, because it
depends greatly on lots of variables that can each change the results
by large factors.

The single most important factor would be the height of the orbit,
with solar activity the second most important.  The density of the
oxygen drops by a factor of about 100,000 from around 200 km altitude
up to 1000 km.  Solar activity affects lower altitudes by up to about
a factor of 2, and high altitudes by a factor of about 100 either way.

For real satellites, not very much corrosion can occur before the drag
drops the orbit into the atmosphere.  Enough to cause problems, but
nothing like the bulk corrosion you see in metals on the surface.

Traveller satellites could actively keep station essentially forever
though.  They could orbit low enough to encounter a significant mass
of atomic oxygen in only a few weeks, using thrusters to maintain
speed where a more realistic satellite would quickly run out of
reaction mass and be dragged down into the bulk of the atmosphere.  In
that sort of scenario, you would want a hull material capable of
withstanding such a sustained chemical attack.  You would not want to
use iron.

- Tim