Re: [TML] Off-topic but incredible! Phil Pugliese 20 Apr 2016 21:01 UTC

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And, also, in the case of a 'lost' Planetary Army or in other instances where 'replacement' would mean a lower TL, 'jiggery-pokery' may well be the most viable option to achieve an increase in capability.

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On Wed, 4/20/16, Craig Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML] Off-topic but incredible!
 To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
 Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 1:53 PM

 Our
 current western industrial society tends to build cheap
 disposable tech, specifically because our rate of tech
 progress makes things obsolete by the time they would
 typically need repair. In a society more like the Third
 Imperium, where both societies and general tech levels are
 stable on the scale of many centuries, you might see more
 emphasis being put on rugged, maintainable equipment. Brin
 touches on this in his Uplift series.
 On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at
 1:21 PM, Greg Chalik <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 I
 thought quite a few times about what happens to older TL
 equipment in Traveller. Obsolete may have a different
 meaning on different worlds.
 Also, its a myth that tinkering with old technology can
 produce a better capability. In general, a design would cost
 up to 200% to go through a redesign that changed its use
 requirement even 10%. This option is the least viable, and
 usually the last option taken when nothing else is
 available.
 Cheers

 Greg
 On 21/04/2016 5:55 AM, "Joseph
 Paul" <xxxxxx@sbcglobal.net>
 wrote:
 Dale Brown wrote :"Flight of
 the Old Dog", a tale of obsolescence to the rescue
 featuring the 'Buff'.

 ObTrav: Aggressor forces are surprised by a spirited defense
 lead by supposedly obsolete vehicles from a military grave
 yard that has been raided for a couple of generations by the
 descendants of a lost Planetary Army that have tinkered them
 into superior performance. Think 'muscle cars with
 teeth' and yes they do maneuver exercises with them and
 shooting competitions.

 Joseph Paul

 By My Hand Designs LLC

 4221 N Park Ave

 Indianapolis, IN 46205

 317-931-0561

 On 4/20/2016 1:10 PM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) wrote:

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 Now here's something from the 'Defense Industry
 Daily' n/l that almost sounds impossible!

 "Pratt and Whitney has maintained that they can develop
 a TF33 upgrade package that will keep Boeing's B-52
 bomber flying until the 2040s. The eight engine bomber has
 kept the same TF33 engine since its induction in 1952, but
 high fuel consumption had the USAF looking at potential
 re-engine options. With oil prices dropping dramatically,
 the program was dropped; but P&W are still looking at
 improvements for the TF33 that will keep it on-wing, and
 allow the air force to reduce their maintenance
 costs."

 These planes have been in service so long ('H"
 models were built about '60-'64) that the authors
 seem unaware that only the 'H" models had the TF33
 turbofan. Earlier models had turbojets. The
 'fanjets' gave the 'H' a much greater range
 than the earlier versions & were more powerful.

 Still, I find it amazing that those planes could still be
 flying past the age of 75 years old!

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