Re: [TML] Earth 2? Phil Pugliese (26 Aug 2016 17:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Earth 2?
C. Berry
(26 Aug 2016 18:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Earth 2?
Tim
(29 Aug 2016 01:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Earth 2? Phil Pugliese 26 Aug 2016 17:57 UTC
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is something of a side issue but, way back when, I remember that *everyone*, & every book I read, believed that Mercury was tidally locked. Then, some years later, it was proven that Mercury was not, in fact, tidally locked. I've never read nor heard an explanation. Could it be that it's "on it's way" but just hasn't gotten 'there' yet? -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 8/26/16, C. Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [TML] Earth 2? To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Friday, August 26, 2016, 9:42 AM Gravity drops with the square of distance, but tidal effects drop as the cube. So a world that close to its star is going to "feel" proportionately much greater tidal effects than Earth does. Tidal braking doesn't work by distorting the body into a single shape. Rather, the sub- and anti-primary points deform upward, and those 90 degrees away inward, in response to tidal forces. But then that sub-primary bulge rotates "ahead" of the sub-primary point, and because it takes time to settle back, you end up with a persistent asymmetry. The primary pulls "backward" on this asymmetric bulge, which applies torque that slows down the body's rotation. Eventually, the body locks into a single orientation, with a now-permanent bulge axis aimed through the primary. This is what happened to Luna, and indeed to all the large moons in the solar system. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Christopher Sean Hilton <xxxxxx@vindaloo.com> wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 09:09:11AM -0700, C. Berry wrote: > Odds are very good that this planet is tidally locked. So climate zones > would work very differently from how they do on a rotating planet. > You'd need a thick atmosphere to provide enough heat circulation to > keep all the air from freezing out on the permanent night side. On > Proxima b, I'd expect the nicest temperatures and any extensive liquid > water to be in the center of the day side. > Can someone elaborate on why the odds are good that this planet is tidally locked? Assume I understand a little about how tidal locking works[1]. I'm asking because if most singleton planets are tidally locked to their primaries then would you not have better chances of finding an earth-like experience on a gas giant moon? [1] I assume the mechanism behind tidal locking is that under gravitational stress, the world stops being a sphere and becomes more of an ovoid. Over millions of years, gravity on the lobes of the ovoid exerts a torque which slows or speeds up the rotation of the world until it matches the period with which it orbits it's primary. ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists. com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://www.simplelists.com/ confirm.php?u= PltOdItWBSgOP4y0Q6abkGbDI1eus0 lz -- "Eternity is in love with the productions of time." - William Blake ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=EwREIRgLK8vaUEhNlnoNdSGKwnjoID8a