RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (05 Nov 2019 22:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (06 Nov 2019 01:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (06 Nov 2019 03:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (06 Nov 2019 05:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (06 Nov 2019 15:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Ethan McKinney (06 Nov 2019 19:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (07 Nov 2019 15:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (07 Nov 2019 16:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (07 Nov 2019 22:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (08 Nov 2019 06:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (08 Nov 2019 16:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (06 Nov 2019 19:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (07 Nov 2019 22:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (08 Nov 2019 05:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (08 Nov 2019 16:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (08 Nov 2019 18:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (08 Nov 2019 23:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (09 Nov 2019 00:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (09 Nov 2019 21:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (10 Nov 2019 18:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (11 Nov 2019 00:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (11 Nov 2019 02:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (11 Nov 2019 19:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (11 Nov 2019 10:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (11 Nov 2019 14:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (12 Nov 2019 03:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (12 Nov 2019 20:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (12 Nov 2019 23:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (13 Nov 2019 19:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (13 Nov 2019 23:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (13 Nov 2019 00:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (13 Nov 2019 19:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (11 Nov 2019 19:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (10 Nov 2019 20:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (10 Nov 2019 19:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (11 Nov 2019 04:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (11 Nov 2019 10:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (11 Nov 2019 14:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (11 Nov 2019 15:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (11 Nov 2019 15:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (11 Nov 2019 18:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (11 Nov 2019 19:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Bruce Johnson (15 Nov 2019 22:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (16 Nov 2019 16:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (16 Nov 2019 18:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (16 Nov 2019 20:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (17 Nov 2019 01:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (17 Nov 2019 03:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (17 Nov 2019 05:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (19 Nov 2019 01:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (19 Nov 2019 06:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (19 Nov 2019 01:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (19 Nov 2019 01:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (19 Nov 2019 07:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (19 Nov 2019 09:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (19 Nov 2019 23:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (20 Nov 2019 17:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (20 Nov 2019 18:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (20 Nov 2019 19:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (20 Nov 2019 23:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (21 Nov 2019 17:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Kelly St. Clair (21 Nov 2019 19:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (21 Nov 2019 22:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Jeff Zeitlin (21 Nov 2019 23:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (22 Nov 2019 00:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (22 Nov 2019 04:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (22 Nov 2019 14:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (19 Nov 2019 06:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Phil Pugliese (11 Nov 2019 15:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn (08 Nov 2019 23:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Thomas RUX (09 Nov 2019 01:47 UTC)

Re: [TML] RE: Jump Drive Question Rupert Boleyn 09 Nov 2019 00:26 UTC

On 09Nov2019 1254, Thomas RUX wrote:

> Bending the rules and using a small craft cabin you would have a ship
> of 103 tons. Following the information provided in CT Supplement 7 my
> calculations using CT LBB 2 1977/1981 using a 100-ton standard hull
> with a J4 Type-B drive with 40 tons of fuel, Bridge, Model/4
> computer, and two staterooms I get 13 tons of space available. With
> the remaining fuel tonnage the CT Supplement 7 entry of "Jump drives
> carry power plant capacities and functions." suggests there is enough
> fuel for almost ten days of power.
>
>> Almost makes me think that whoever designed it didn't really read
>> the rules!
> I've got a couple of theories: The person who designed the X-Boat
> used 1. an early version of the design rules. 2. used the wiggle room
> provided in the books to tweak the design to fit, basically creating
> home brew rules.

Well, if they used the '77 rules (and the '81 edition wasn't out when
the X-boat first appears) they get to use a model/1bis rather than a
model/4 computer, saving 3 tons. Also in the '77 edition you do not have
to have a power plant if there's no manoeuvre drive (B2, p.13 only
mentions having to match the size of the manoeuvre drive). With 10 days
power fuel there's plenty of room for a couple of people, some cargo,
and the data banks, given that the last are whatever size the referee likes.

The rules in the '81 edition make things much harder and require house
rules on the power plant, etc. Book5, 1st edition makes it fairly easy,
even with a power plant - there's certainly room for a manoeuvre drive.
B5, 2nd edition isn't quite as generous (power plants are bigger when
under TL15), but still has lots of free space.

I can't be bothered checking out MT or TNE, but I'd be surprised if they
didn't have free space too.

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Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>