refuelling... not at a gas giant Timothy Collinson (10 Oct 2020 19:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Rupert Boleyn (11 Oct 2020 00:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 Oct 2020 00:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 Oct 2020 00:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Rupert Boleyn (11 Oct 2020 05:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 Oct 2020 06:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Rupert Boleyn (11 Oct 2020 06:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 Oct 2020 06:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Rupert Boleyn (11 Oct 2020 07:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Kelly St. Clair (11 Oct 2020 07:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant James Catchpole (11 Oct 2020 09:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Thomas RUX (11 Oct 2020 17:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Rupert Boleyn (11 Oct 2020 18:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Thomas RUX (11 Oct 2020 18:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Phil Pugliese (12 Oct 2020 17:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Cian Witherspoon (12 Oct 2020 18:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Thomas Jones-Low (12 Oct 2020 18:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Thomas RUX (12 Oct 2020 20:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant James Catchpole (11 Oct 2020 02:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 Oct 2020 03:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant James Catchpole (11 Oct 2020 04:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Rupert Boleyn (11 Oct 2020 06:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Timothy Collinson (11 Oct 2020 12:49 UTC)

Re: [TML] refuelling... not at a gas giant Rupert Boleyn 11 Oct 2020 07:10 UTC


On 11Oct2020 1945, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
> Water can't be *much* more compact than LH2 drawn from said water.
> You're losing a crap lot of weight from the O2. I suppose it is
> possible that H20(l) can be more compact than H2(l) .
One tonne of liquid hydrogen takes up forteen cubic metres of volume.
Nine tonnes of water include one tonne of hydrogen, and has a volume of
nine cubic metres. You get about 1.55 times as much hydrogen into the
same volume, but the mass per quantity of hydrogen is nine times as
great. In CT, MgT and a number of other rule sets spaceships care about
volume, not mass, so water is useful if the referee is willing to go
with it. The downside is that it's very definitely unrefined fuel, even
if the ref is generous (I simply disallow using water as jump fuel), and
carrying it and then refining it requires a refinery/purifier, time, and
a tank to hold the water as well as one to hold fuel.

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Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>