Refining Fuel Jeff Zeitlin (11 Oct 2020 22:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refining Fuel kaladorn@xxxxxx (11 Oct 2020 22:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refining Fuel Jeff Zeitlin (11 Oct 2020 23:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refining Fuel Bruce Johnson (13 Oct 2020 17:41 UTC)

Re: [TML] Refining Fuel Jeff Zeitlin 11 Oct 2020 23:03 UTC

On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:54:50 -0400, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:

>I take it you are assuming 100% conversion? (I have no idea if that's an
>accurate assumption)

In the sense that I am putting the entire dt of cargo through the refiner
and extracting every bit of H for the fuel tanks, yes.

>This whole discussion is wonderful. It also reminds me of The Delorean's
>"Mr. Fusion".... just dump some stuff in, off you go!

I'd wonder if that was an influence on the idea of the Refiner, but it
predates the flick...

>On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 6:33 PM Jeff Zeitlin <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com>
>wrote:
>
>> If anything containing hydrogen is valid as "unrefined fuel", a ship
>> equipped with a refiner should be able to fill their active tanks by
>> refining from tanked cargo. For each dt of tanked cargo, you should be able
>> to get the following amounts of refined fuel (1 tonne = 1 dt = 14m3) from
>> the substances below (use fixed-pitch font to view):
>>
>>
>> (All substances are at STP unless otherwise noted, and are assumed pure)
>>
>> Name           Density (kg/dt)     % H by mass   Refined fuel yield (dt/dt)
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Water H2O               13958.         11.'11                    1.550'8
>> Methane CH4                 9.198      25.                       0.0023
>> Methanol CH3OH          11088.         12.5                      1.386
>> Ammonia NH3                10.22       17.647                    0.0018
>> Ethane C2H6                18.987      20.                       0.0038
>> Ethanol C2H5OH          11046.         13.043                    1.4408
>> Hydrogen Chloride HCl      20.86        2.'77                    0.00058
>> Hydrogen Fluoride HF        1.15        5.                       0.00058
>> Hydrogen Peroxide H2O2  20195.          5.88                     1.18794
>> Sucrose C12H22O11 (1)   12320.          6.43                     0.7925
>> Butane C4H10               35.         17.24                     0.00603
>> Butanol C4H9OH          11333.         13.51                     1.5315
>> Benzene C6H6            12264.          7.69                     0.9434
>>
>> (1) Bulk white sugar form
>>

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