TL10 Spee Class 30,000 ton Pocket Battleship ewan@xxxxxx (25 Feb 2023 14:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] TL10 Spee Class 30,000 ton Pocket Battleship Rupert Boleyn (25 Feb 2023 23:56 UTC)
RE: [TML] TL10 Spee Class 30,000 ton Pocket Battleship ewan@xxxxxx (05 Mar 2023 12:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] TL10 Spee Class 30,000 ton Pocket Battleship Jeff Zeitlin (05 Mar 2023 20:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] TL10 Spee Class 30,000 ton Pocket Battleship Rupert Boleyn (05 Mar 2023 22:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] TL10 Spee Class 30,000 ton Pocket Battleship Rupert Boleyn (05 Mar 2023 22:45 UTC)

Re: [TML] TL10 Spee Class 30,000 ton Pocket Battleship Jeff Zeitlin 05 Mar 2023 20:06 UTC

I think that what he meant was that under the rules, the hit chance
radically changes when you transition between small combatants (under
20kTd) and medium(?) combatants (20kTd or more, but under 75kTd), and then
it changes again when you transition to large(?) combatants (75kTd or
larger). So, as written, the _Spee_ is at the low end of 'medium
combatants', and either could be made much larger while remaining a 'medium
combatant' - or it needs to be cut down to below 20kTd to bring it into
'small combatants'.

Incidentally, this is one component of the sort of analysis - although this
particular analysis is at a somewhat superficial level - that led to the
Eurisko fleet in Trillion-Credit-Squadron competitions.

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 12:10:41 -0000, Ewan Quibell wrote:

>Hi Robert,
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>I’d like to explore what you mean by:
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>“the next being under 75 KTons. So by that measure it's in the low end of its size range”
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>So are you saying that by making the ship larger (up to 75 Ktons) I can add more engines, agility, weapons etc. to make it a better battleship but still be under 75Ktons?
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>Also when you say:
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>“By another it needs to lose some weight.”
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>What is that referring to?
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>Best regards,
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>Ewan
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>For the fallen in the cause of the free:
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>"When I go home I will tell of them and say,
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>For our tomorrow, They gave their today."
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> My spelling is entirerly due to dyslexia, typos, and poetic license
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>From: xxxxxx@simplelists.com <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
>Sent: 26 February 2023 16:11
>To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
>Subject: Re: [TML] TL10 Spee Class 30,000 ton Pocket Battleship
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>Hi Rupert,
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>Good point I didn’t think of that. I’ll check with MT but as it’s an adaption of High Guard it should be ok.
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>I thought of that when I was building the SDBs. I made them 600 tons so you would need to mount a UCP 7 battery to get an auto critical hit on them. Wonder why I didn’t think of it for the Spee.
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>Presumably as we go up TL and the spinal mounts get more powerful lower TL ships have to get bigger to survive. I’ll check it out.
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>Many thanks and best regards,
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>Ewan
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>xxxxxx@quibell.org.uk <mailto:xxxxxx@quibell.org.uk>
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>Sent from my ZX81
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>For the fallen in the cause of the free:
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>"When I go home I will tell of them and say,
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>For our tomorrow, They gave their today."
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>My spelling is entirerly due to dyslexia, typos, and poetic license
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>On 25 Feb 2023, at 23:57, Rupert Boleyn - rupert.boleyn at gmail.com <xxxxxx@simplelists.com <mailto:xxxxxx@simplelists.com> > wrote:
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>On 26Feb2023 0338, ewan at quibell.org.uk (via tml list) wrote:
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>And this is the Robust Class with a Jump drive attached to it.
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>30,000 tons for a jump capable battle ship seems a bit small, but it is what
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>it is .
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>I'm might look at more armour, but I'm not sure if it's worth it . comments
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>welcome
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>As I recall, back in the days of the LLBs and High Guard, the goal was to keep 'small' combatants under 20 KTons, because that was one of the breakpoints for hit chance (the next being under 75 KTons). So by that measure it's in the low end of its size range. By another it needs to lose some weight.
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>It easily passes the most important HG test though - it's big enough no spinal weapon of its TL can get auto-crits on it.

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