You call that a yacht? Timothy Collinson (22 Dec 2020 05:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (23 Dec 2020 01:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Timothy Collinson (23 Dec 2020 08:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (24 Dec 2020 02:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Timothy Collinson (25 Dec 2020 12:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (26 Dec 2020 02:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Timothy Collinson (26 Dec 2020 09:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Jeff Zeitlin (26 Dec 2020 15:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Timothy Collinson (26 Dec 2020 20:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Thomas RUX (26 Dec 2020 21:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Timothy Collinson (26 Dec 2020 21:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (26 Dec 2020 23:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (27 Dec 2020 00:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Phil Pugliese (27 Dec 2020 00:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (27 Dec 2020 01:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? James Catchpole (27 Dec 2020 01:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? James Catchpole (27 Dec 2020 01:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Phil Pugliese (27 Dec 2020 09:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (28 Dec 2020 05:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Jeff Zeitlin (24 Dec 2020 10:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? James Catchpole (24 Dec 2020 15:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Timothy Collinson (25 Dec 2020 12:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? James Catchpole (25 Dec 2020 13:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (26 Dec 2020 02:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Thomas RUX (24 Dec 2020 13:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Timothy Collinson (25 Dec 2020 12:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (26 Dec 2020 02:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Jonathan Clark (25 Dec 2020 01:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (25 Dec 2020 02:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Phil Pugliese (25 Dec 2020 02:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Timothy Collinson (25 Dec 2020 12:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Cian Witherspoon (31 Dec 2020 05:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (31 Dec 2020 23:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Rupert Boleyn (01 Jan 2021 02:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Kurt Feltenberger (01 Jan 2021 02:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Rupert Boleyn (01 Jan 2021 04:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that a yacht? Rupert Boleyn (01 Jan 2021 02:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that ayacht? Charles Hensley (08 Jan 2021 05:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that ayacht? Timothy Collinson (08 Jan 2021 12:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that ayacht? Rupert Boleyn (08 Jan 2021 13:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that ayacht? Timothy Collinson (08 Jan 2021 14:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that ayacht? Kurt Feltenberger (09 Jan 2021 00:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that ayacht? Kurt Feltenberger (09 Jan 2021 00:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that ayacht? Rupert Boleyn (09 Jan 2021 01:49 UTC)
RE: [TML] You call that ayacht? ewan@xxxxxx (10 Jan 2021 13:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call that ayacht? Rupert Boleyn (09 Jan 2021 01:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call thatayacht? Charles Hensley (09 Jan 2021 17:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] You call thatayacht? Kurt Feltenberger (13 Jan 2021 00:48 UTC)

Re: [TML] You call that ayacht? Rupert Boleyn 09 Jan 2021 01:46 UTC

On 09Jan2021 1309, Kurt Feltenberger wrote:
> I'm not sure how much faith I'm willing to put into this as something
> even being "spitball accurate".  A Nimitz class CVN comes out to about
> 24.5kdtons, and when you compare that to existing known sizes of
> Traveller shisp, it seems a bit...weak.
Given her dimensions of about 333m long (overall length) x 77m beam
(again, overall) x (11 + 17)m height (draught plus height to flight
deck), her block volume is 666,666 m^3, or ~47,620 DTons. However, her
underwater volume is only ~100,000 m^3, and her above-water volume isn't
that of a block, so we know her volume is somewhat lower than that. Even
if we assume a very chunky co-efficient of 0.9 for the above-water hull,
it comes in at ~305,000 m^3. Add that to the submerged portion and we
get a total volume of ~405,000 m^3, or ~29,000 DTons. So for her mass,
Nimitz is a big ship, but within the 1/3rd to 1/5th range I gave.

Remember that a surface ship's crew do not need full life support, and
thus take up much less space than is assumed in Traveller. Thus Nimitz'
complement of ~6,000 do not need three thousand staterooms (at 6,000
DTons just for them), or 20% of her volume. Space-Nimitz won't be
carrying some of her sub-craft complement sitting on her flight deck
much of the time either, so all storage, working, and deployment volume
has to be accounted for. As a starship in the Traveller universe any
such ship would need a lot of volume devoted to jump fuel, too - the
usual standard for Third Imperium navy fleet ships in the classic era is
jump-4, requiring 40% of the volume be fuel (plus a bit more for the
reactor). Thus Space-Nimitz simply has to be much bigger than USS Nimitz
is. At least she needs little to no space be put aside for her
sub-crafts fuel.

By the way, most of the aircraft would count as ~50 DTons, with some
being smaller (the helicopters), and some larger (such as the Hawkeyes).
This translates well to using 50 DTon fighters in Traveller, and implies
hanger space for ~4,500 DTons of combat sub-craft. In High Guard this
requires a little under 6,000 DTons. You'd want at least one, ideally
two launch tubes at 1,250 DTons each.

I think you could make a credible attempt at a 30,000 DTon
interpretation of Nimitz.

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Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>